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Re:As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel... by wenc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:10AM (#16062149)
> Besides passing TOEFL and showing up with a full tuition check what are the merit requirements is needed. You'd probably say high school grades, but I remember just handing them a hand written note from my high school principal which I translated myself and he signed. They didn't need SAT or ACT scores even. Maybe they do now, I didn't check.

If this is your experience, it sounds like you are baselining your opinions on less reputable U.S. universities (and there are quite a few of them around. The U.S. has over 3000 colleges.)

In most decent universities, you absolutely cannot be admitted without the right grades. In most competitive state colleges, international students actually require better (average) grades than locals for admission because they are placed in a separate, smaller pool of applicants. In-state applicants are often given priority.

Re:As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel... by rdtsc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @12:39PM (#16063016)
> you are baselining your opinions on less reputable U.S. universities (and there are quite a few of them around. The U.S. has over 3000 colleges.)

It was an average state college. Not sure the "less reputable" sounds right but I guess you can put it that way. And that's mostly what the article at hand is talking about anyway.

> you absolutely cannot be admitted without the right grades.

Is the Kentucky State going to call a school in Bangladesh to verify the transcript? Wealthy people who can afford to send kids to school in US with full tuition can probably find a way to "buy" a good transcript from a local school. Maybe you meant that SAT is a requirement, then yes, it thing might have changed and it is more challenging.

Re:As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel... by wenc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:59PM (#16063923)
> It was an average state college.

Fair enough, the article does mention some very mediocre colleges. I was thinking of decent colleges like Ohio State or Iowa State.

> Is the Kentucky State going to call a school in Bangladesh to verify the transcript? Wealthy people who can afford to send kids to school in US with full tuition can probably find a way to "buy" a good transcript from a local school. Maybe you meant that SAT is a requirement, then yes, it thing might have changed and it is more challenging.

Most decent colleges admit international students based on some standardized test like the SATs, IB, A-Levels or equivalent. High school transcripts are rarely acceptable due to variability in standards.

But you are right about Kentucky State. Its website states that it accepts "Official SAT/ACT OR TOEFL scores" from international students with their high school transcripts. This is utter garbage.

http://kysu.edu/administration-governance/student-engagement...

Re:As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel... by pm90 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:27PM (#16063562)
> Is the Kentucky State going to call a school in Bangladesh to verify the transcript? Wealthy people who can afford to send kids to school in US with full tuition can probably find a way to "buy" a good transcript from a local school. Maybe you meant that SAT is a requirement, then yes, it thing might have changed and it is more challenging.

They often do. And admission committees learn from experience: if they admit students from a school and they don't perform well, they recruit less from that school the next year. Conversely, if they have students performing well, they will continue to admit more. There is a chain of trust.

Re:As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:22PM (#16063513)
It's not about whether the university is reputable, it's about whether the college or school within that university is reputable.

A backwater program at a good university is going to be worse than a flagship program at a backwater university