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Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by lr4444lr on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:26AM (#16060748)
That doesn't at all convey to me what I'm trying to find out: would I wish to be tried in the Norwegian system if I were charged with a given crime rather than in the United States? Neither where would I prefer to carry out my sentence, nor where I think the socioeconomic factors that lead to crime are best prevented. Those are all worthwhile questions, to be clear, but not what I was getting at.
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by spiderfarmer on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:42AM (#16060849)
By refering to personal preference, you are ignoring my arguments and the issues at hand.
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by lr4444lr on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:19AM (#16061124)
I'm ignoring your arguments because we're on a sub-tangent that I started on just one point of your comment - that our prison population is somehow evidence of our lack of freedom, and I would like to limit it to that in order to get some clarity on it. I have nothing to say on the other points. I may even totally agree with you on them. If you don't want to engage this specific point anymore, fine.
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by ThomPete on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:55AM (#16060945)
Why?

You do that yourself

"I prefer a justice system that takes their background into account and takes steps to improve the lives of these people."

Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by spiderfarmer on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:01AM (#16060999)
That was an answer to his question, not my entire rebuttal.
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by ThomPete on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:16AM (#16061101)
Your preference for a justice system is your rebuttal. You are discussing whether it's ok or not and you have rules for what you think is ok. That is exactly your rebuttal.