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Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by FLUX-YOU on Sunday December 31, 2017 @10:02PM (#16044425)
They're trying to say Google's more likely to reject you for a soft-skills deficit, but they're incorrectly drawing any conclusions from "I can't tell you why". It could have been anything from discrimination to a simple mishap of hiring for a position already filled and the recruiter/interviewer saving face.
Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by twblalock on Sunday December 31, 2017 @11:48PM (#16044757)
Most companies won't tell you why. There is no upside for them, and significant downside if they reveal something that could open them up to a lawsuit.

It's easier for companies to have a blanket policy of never telling than to educate everyone involved in the hiring process about the complex and ever-changing realities of employment law, discrimination law, protected classes, etc.

Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by gozur88 on Monday January 01, 2018 @04:09AM (#16045355)
Yep. I've never worked for a company where we told people why they didn't make the cut. Heck, the person who delivered the bad news didn't even know - we selected the candidate we wanted (or none) and told HR to make the rest happen.

In most cases there's no answer beyond someone else seemed like a better fit for the position. How would it help to know you would have got the job if only this other person didn't apply?

Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by l_t on Monday January 01, 2018 @09:34AM (#16046174)
Well, it depends. At my job, we do give feedback to all our candidates. Basically, we condense our notes about the candidate down to the most important points and send it to them. We've found that candidates appreciate getting this kind of feedback because:

1. It gives them a kind of closure and treats them with respect.

2. It can help them improve for future applications.

Usually, the reason is not "Someone else is a better fit". We're not just trying to fill one position -- if we find good engineers, we'll hire them. Usually feedback is related to stuff that came up in either the coding project or the interview. It helps people in the same way that code review helps them: by giving them an opportunity to learn and improve.

Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by gozur88 on Monday January 01, 2018 @04:32PM (#16048164)
>Basically, we condense our notes about the candidate down to the most important points and send it to them.

This is an excellent basis for a lawsuit.

Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by l_t on Monday January 01, 2018 @05:45PM (#16048459)
How so?

(edit: I wonder if we're talking about slightly different things here. The "notes" I'm referring to are primarily code commentary -- the same kind of material we cover in pair programming. As far as I know, we don't share notes about our internal decision-making process, which perhaps is what you're talking about.)

Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by gozur88 on Monday January 01, 2018 @06:13PM (#16048595)
Ah... I misunderstood. I thought you were sending them notes on your impressions of the candidates themselves.
Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by lifeisstillgood on Monday January 01, 2018 @04:38AM (#16045444)
> How would it help to know you would have got the job if only this other person didn't apply?

great way to look at what bothers us all after a rejection - thanks

Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by crdoconnor on Monday January 01, 2018 @02:18AM (#16045113)
This is why I don't believe almost all companies that profess a commitment to diversity in hiring. They're committed to diversity right up until the point where not being committed would open them up to a lawsuit. THAT'S when they chicken out.
Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by nawitus on Monday January 01, 2018 @06:04AM (#16045642)
The upside is creating a better brand for the company. It's a small upside to be honest.
Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by Realist1337 on Monday January 01, 2018 @08:11AM (#16045938)
I've been in a hiring capacity many times and as explained to me by HR/Legal: Never reveal the reason for passing on a candidate. They explained that in the US, it can provide rationale for lawsuits if the person comes up with some counterpoint, perhaps with evidence that you were in possession of the counterpoint. I am not a lawyer, but that is the reason given to me by multiple big companies.
Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by KKKKkkkk1 on Monday January 01, 2018 @11:56PM (#16049960)
I also interviewed with Apple in Cupertino and they gave me a clear reason why they passed on me. So either Apple is immune to the US legal system or all this talk about lawsuits is hogwash.
Re:How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Job Hunt by l_t on Monday January 01, 2018 @09:39AM (#16046189)
IMO, there's an ethical upside as well. Doing the right thing is its own reward, emotionally speaking.