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Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by hardlianotion on Sunday December 31, 2017 @09:31AM (#16040678)
I think they are concerned by lack of effective moderation, and by the inability of these companies to know their customer
Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by blitmap on Sunday December 31, 2017 @09:47AM (#16040734)
At the scale of Google and Facebook, I'm not sure it's possible to individually "know" their customer.
Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by gaius on Sunday December 31, 2017 @09:55AM (#16040766)
It’s possible for retail banks with tens of millions of customers to KYC, I’m sure it’s not an insurmountable problem
Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by jstanley on Sunday December 31, 2017 @10:29AM (#16040907)
It's surely possible, but would it be a good thing?

When I first starting posting things online, the general advice was "don't use your real name", "don't say anything that will reveal where you live", etc.

Now we're not only using our real names but advocating for identity verification of all commenters? How did this go so wrong so fast?

Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by tcd on Sunday December 31, 2017 @10:34AM (#16040922)
Facebook made the transition plausible; a formal social network, then slowly, the creep began, where it's now acceptable to use your real name online.

I still heed the advice of the 90's: NEVER use your real name. We still have that choice thankfully.

Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by LV-426 on Sunday December 31, 2017 @11:12AM (#16041059)
> I still heed the advice of the 90's: NEVER use your real name.

Where was this advice given? In my experience, people online in the 1990s routinely used their real names, and emails (in the late 90s obfuscated or removed due to spam), on the primary social-network at that time (Usenet), and people still do to this day.

Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by mindslight on Sunday December 31, 2017 @11:47AM (#16041218)
I can't not respond to "KYC" being thrown around as if it's a legitimate concept. It's a whitewash term for fascist [0] surveillance.

[0] The literal merging of the state and corporations to achieve a level of totalitarianism that would be hard for either to achieve on its own.

Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by duality on Sunday December 31, 2017 @10:49AM (#16040971)
If they did, people may not like that very much either.
Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by blitmap on Monday January 01, 2018 @04:45PM (#16048218)
I wanted to offer another reply:

I think it's dangerous to engineer for moderating against terrorism/extremism.

Surely there are things Google and Facebook could do but if it were me I would not want to. There are automated ways to look for extremism, but to do it ~well~ it would certainly require a human to rule out false-positives. At that point Facebook and Google become an extension of law enforcement, and if something is not caught it then becomes a liability to have involvement in the first place. No sane person wants to see anyone get hurt, but is the gov paying for assistance from Facebook/Google? They can't just put engineering hours toward something for the Greater Good (tm). Lets create a task force within Google to assist law enforcement for the 200+ countries "fighting extremism".

The gov wants what it wants without considering the harm to civil liberties of its citizens or what risk it might be exposing corporations to.

It all feels like manipulation.

Re:UK threatens to tax Facebook and Google if they dont do m... by crdoconnor on Sunday December 31, 2017 @09:46AM (#16040730)
Knowing Theresa May it's probably a lot to do with Facebook's refusal to hand over WhatsApp end-to-end encrypted chat logs.

She hates encryption.