Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by JupiterMoon on Sunday December 31, 2017 @06:22AM
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The initial claims made about Jean Charles de Menezes included that he ran, he jumped the barrier, he did not buy a ticket, he was wearing a thick jacket. In reality he walked, bought a ticket, used the barrier normally and was wearing a t-shirt. This is visible on the cctv footage.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by vidarh on Sunday December 31, 2017 @02:47PM
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Yes, but the part I'm specifically talking about was how he got up from the seat on the tube when confronted in a way the officer in question thought was aggressive, but that in reality is something you often see on the tube. There's no doubt there was lots of bullshit coming from the police over it too, but that he stood up was one of the few claims the jury in the inquest agree was proven, an it stands out because the testimony relating to it as far as I remember made the officer seem genuinely to not realize why someone might get up that way, which is quite unlike their other excuses in that it exposes ignorance compared to the other attempts to describe things in a way that could have actually contributed to giving them an excuse.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by JupiterMoon on Monday January 01, 2018 @06:41AM
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Correction. No useful cctv footage was apparently available and he was wearing a denim jacket.
It stands out to me because they thought it was weird, but to me it's just the easiest way to get up when you're on a crowded train and there's no space to your sides to support you on.
But to a stressed out, scared armed response team even that made him seem scarier.
To this date, almost ten years later, I think of that case ever time I get up from a seat that way. Not that I expect to be mistaken for a terrorist, but because it underlines just how bad people are at interpreting body language, and how dangerous that can be when combined with stressed out armed police.