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Re:San Francisco’s Skyline, Now Inescapably Transformed by Tech by closeparen on Saturday December 30, 2017 @08:34PM (#16038800)
BART does exactly what it's supposed to: indulge the public's desire to live in single family detached houses while benefitting from an urban economy.

I'm grateful that we decided to do this in a way that has fewer negative externalities, and probably lower total cost to society, than a freeway expansion. Seriously, we're lucky that the intention behind BART gave us anything resembling a train.

If you try to read it as a way to connect urban neighborhoods (like Manhattan's subways), you're going to be disappointed, because it isn't one.

Remember that most city land area is essentially suburban, and that SF/Oakland/SJ are less than a third of the region's population. Transportation that serves the needs and preferences of the regional electorate is vanishingly unlikely to resemble the Manhattan subway system, or make any sense for the tiny minority of us living on urban blocks. It's going to look like BART and Caltrain: infrequent stations in low-rise neighborhoods with big parking lots, infrequent service outside peak commute hours, etc.

Re:San Francisco’s Skyline, Now Inescapably Transformed by Tech by rayiner on Saturday December 30, 2017 @11:50PM (#16039401)
It's still epic bullshit. Here's the Menlo Park station: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4548376,-122.1829295,3a,75y,....

Here's the Metro North station in New Rochelle, NY: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.911459,-73.785247,3a,75y,93..... Lot's of parking, but also several 30-40 story high-rises within walking distance.

This is Mamaroneck, a fancy NY suburb: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9537644,-73.7359993,3a,75y,3....

This is Portchester: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0002183,-73.6633792,3a,75y,2.... New York is the only place I'm familiar with where a Costco out in the suburbs is accessible to people taking public transit.

Re:San Francisco’s Skyline, Now Inescapably Transformed by Tech by DrScump on Sunday December 31, 2017 @02:35AM (#16039787)
"New York is the only place I'm familiar with where a Costco out in the suburbs is accessible to people taking public transit."

The Sunnyvale CA Costco is literally next door to the Lawrence Caltrain station and has been for over 30 years (it was originally built as a Price Club).

Re:San Francisco’s Skyline, Now Inescapably Transformed by Tech by xyzzy_plugh on Sunday December 31, 2017 @03:03AM (#16039826)
Caltrain isn't exactly as cheap as a bus, and the schedule is focused on commuters, not suburban shoppers. It's actually looks cheaper to use Uber if you combine bus and Caltrain fares.
Re:San Francisco’s Skyline, Now Inescapably Transformed by Tech by closeparen on Sunday December 31, 2017 @03:11AM (#16039836)
Wouldn’t most Peninsula households have at least one car for non-commute trips, even if they ride Caltrain to work?