Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by joe_the_user on Saturday December 30, 2017 @03:18PM
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I don't see much of a plausible argument that lack of gun control makes American police more trigger happy. And I say that as someone with no particular stake in gun rights. America doesn't have that high a murder rate, it just has a high rate of killings by cops. Lack of training, poor training and overall problematic police-culture seem to be the main offenders.
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Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by bww on Saturday December 30, 2017 @03:34PM
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Easy access to guns in this country means it’s plausible that anyone the police encounter may be armed. As a result all the police also have guns and are reasonably concerned about being shot themselves – especially in tense situations. That’s a pretty direct connection from more guns in the public to more heavily armed, twitchier police.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by Spooky23 on Saturday December 30, 2017 @04:21PM
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There’s more connection to excessive traffic stops than to gun ownership.
Guns are definately a problem, but a bigger problem is the idea that we Officers at high risk so that they can be gloried toll collectors. If you cut traffic stops by 80% and used cameras for speed enforcement, you’d dramatically reduce Officer shootings and attacks on officers.
Train them to be EMTs and paramedics instead. The police and public should not be afraid of each other.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by sgt101 on Saturday December 30, 2017 @03:31PM
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3x france 4x UK. The USA has a high murder rate; ok.. not as high as Iraq, but by the standards of developed nations, high. Put it this way, more than 10k people a year are murdered in the USA that would not be should the murder rate be the same as the UK's.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by ollieshmollie on Saturday December 30, 2017 @03:39PM
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I think there's at least a plausible argument to be had. A lot of bad guys get guns through holes in gun control, getting a gun out of state, etc. If it were harder for the wrong people to get guns, maybe there wouldn't be such a need for a militarized police force, or at least officers might not fear for their lives during stressful situations.
That said, I'm a believer in the second amendment -- I just think there's definitely an argument to be had.