Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by ryanwaggoner on Saturday December 30, 2017 @02:44PM
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The overuse of SWAT is ridiculous, but sending them into a shots fired / hostage / bodies on the ground situation is entirely appropriate. And no different from most other developed countries. If you go into a house in Germany, shoot someone, and then threaten to shoot everyone else, do you really think you’re going to get an officer or two casually knocking on the door without weapons at the ready?
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by thomasz on Saturday December 30, 2017 @03:39PM
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German cops have fired a total of 52 bullets in 2016, which killed 11 people. I think it’s very likely that situation would have had a different outcome.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by ryanwaggoner on Saturday December 30, 2017 @07:30PM
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That’s correct, and irrelevant to the point I was making.
Re:LAPD arrests man on suspicion of making deadly swatting c...
by PeterisP on Saturday December 30, 2017 @09:33PM
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It's important to not equate sending SWAT "into a shots fired / hostage / bodies on the ground situation" and a situation where it's been claimed by an anonymous phone call that something like that might be the case.
It's not the same. It's reasonable to respond with lethal force after shots have been fired by the opponent, it's totally not reasonable to do so when you suspect that it might be the case that they might get fired with no good evidence that it actually is so.
Because if they are the latter, why do they go with guns and ammo and equipment enough to equip a small army just to arrest some kid who's selling weed or some guy who threatened their neighbors and such?
SWAT teams should be for breaking into Escobar's hideout or stopping angry mobs, not for responding to random phone calls and simple cases.
Aren't they men enough to just send 1-3 people with their fucking guns in their holsters?