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Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by dragonwriter on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:35PM (#16033027)
That fatal police shootings, regardless of justification, are homicide is uncontroversial. It's somewhat more controversial to characterized a false report leading to a fatal shooting as a homicide by the reporting party, because of the necessary intervening acts in the chain of causality.

OTOH, some codes specifically address false reports of emergencies producing death, avoiding any need to address indirect homicide.

Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by Natsu on Saturday December 30, 2017 @12:54AM (#16034062)
Assuming that the SWAT call itself was a felony, there could be justification for charging the guy who made the SWAT call with felony murder. I'll leave it to actual lawyers to determine the actual facts of this case, I'm just trying to point out that committing a felony due to which people get killed can, in some cases, lead to felony murder charges.

There's a pretty good description of how that works here - http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=1320

Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by user5994461 on Monday January 01, 2018 @01:44AM (#16045020)
The judge and the jury care for the circumstances and the intent.

This case, a repeated offender (he did many calls like that) who made highly specific buggy claims (armed hostage taking with already dead hostages) with the intend to arm or kill the target (see his message) and a trace of everything (see twitter messages and recordings).

It's a perfect school case. It makes perfect sense to charge him for murder. Everything is the worst it could possibly be with the worst possibly aggravating circumstances.

Can't wait to see the proceedings. Won't be surprised if they make an example out of him.

Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by weberc2 on Friday December 29, 2017 @08:06PM (#16033154)
> That fatal police shootings, regardless of justification, are homicide is uncontroversial

Justified police shootings are not homicide by any definition.

Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by dragonwriter on Friday December 29, 2017 @09:46PM (#16033525)
> Justified police shootings are not homicide by any definition.

Yes, they are; they are pretty much the textbook example of justifiable homicide.

They aren't criminal homicides, but not all homicides are criminal.

Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by jpindar on Friday December 29, 2017 @08:38PM (#16033278)
The first dozen or so dictionaries I checked disagree with you.
Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by weberc2 on Friday December 29, 2017 @09:17PM (#16033411)
Which dictionaries are those? Here's the Google result:

> the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.

Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by papercrane on Friday December 29, 2017 @10:00PM (#16033584)
Re:Call of Duty gaming community points to ‘swatting’ in Wic... by cornyNetHandle on Friday December 29, 2017 @09:38PM (#16033495)
"Homicide is the killing of a human being due to the act or failure to act of another. Criminal homicides include murder and manslaughter. Non-criminal homicides include killing in self-defense, a misadventure like a hunting accident or automobile wreck without a violation of law like reckless driving, or legal (government) execution. Suicide is a homicide, but is rarely prosecuted."

from definitions.uslegal.com