The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers

Re:The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers by geerlingguy on Friday December 29, 2017 @06:47PM (#16032847)

After test driving a Tesla, and seeing how much better the simple driving experience will be in a decent electric car (one pedal driving, heating and cooling divorced from a running and wasteful/toxic engine, a car that gets software updates for more than 6 months...), I don’t think I can ever consider buying another ICE. If I still commuted, I’d find some way to justify a Bolt, Leaf, or Model 3.

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Re:The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers by funnelsgun on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:07PM (#16032924)

Lithium ion batteries are both toxic in production and disposal.

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Re:The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers by toomuchtodo on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:27PM (#16032999)

The first version of your post said that lithium ion batteries were toxic in production and disposal (both claims entirely false). You've now changed the entire comment to CO2 output for battery production (even though battery production will continue to decline in CO2 impact as grid energy sources continue to tilt towards renewables).

> Therefore, the study has calculated that a fossil fuel vehicle can currently drive for more than eight years before it reaches the same environmental impact of a Tesla. For the Nissan Leaf, with its smaller capacity battery, this figure comes in at three years.

Both Teslas and Leafs will be on the road beyond the eight and three years you quoted, putting their production at a net positive even before the above mentioned improvements take place.

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Re:The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers by funnelsgun on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:45PM (#16033063)

Apologies, I thought I’d edit a useless, incorrect comment into something useful and contributive to the discussion. It wasn’t an act of manipulation or deception.

I have restored the original comment.

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Re:The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers by grzm on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:47PM (#16033072)

If you do that, it's common on HN to include a note regarding how you changed it, particularly if the edit is substantive.

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Re:The Near Future of Electric Cars: Many Models, Few Buyers by toomuchtodo on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:46PM (#16033068)

I’ve removed the offending sentence from my comment as well regarding intent. My apologies for not assuming positive intent.

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