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Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by pfarnsworth on Thursday December 28, 2017 @10:20PM (#16027250)
Thanks for your anecdote. I have had friends beaten up and robbed in the Mission. I have a friend who lives in Bayview who had his windows shot out. My friend's friend was mugged in Glen Park BART station, she was punched in the face and the mugger grabbed her bag, no one did anything. My wife's friends had their phones stolen off their table at a Starbucks in Noe.
Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by santaclaus on Thursday December 28, 2017 @10:47PM (#16027359)
Sure, and the same anecdotes hold in Manhattan. I've had friends robbed at knifepoint in the Upper West Side, I've seen phone jackings at 1pm in front of Gristedes in the Upper East Side. Hell, my brother's roommate in Harlem was clocked with a baseball bat in the head while leaving his apartment and subsequently robbed blind.

By and large NYC and San Francisco are both very safe cites in the grand scheme of things. (Unless you are a car window in San Francisco. Then you are screwed).

Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by smachiz on Thursday December 28, 2017 @11:02PM (#16027425)
Look at the crime stats: http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/nycdata/public_safety/crime-selec...

In 2014 (NYC has only gotten better), SF is substantially worse by virtually every measure - some metrics over 3x worse per capita.

Trying to equate them - or even consider them similar - is generally dishonest.

Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by dawhizkid on Thursday December 28, 2017 @10:50PM (#16027375)
or if you are on BART are terrorized by a gang of teens

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/11/25/group-of-teens-strik...

Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by santaclaus on Thursday December 28, 2017 @11:04PM (#16027439)
Sure, and groups of teens in NYC have been sucker punching random people on the streets for a few years now. [1]

[1] http://www.newsweek.com/new-yorkers-are-getting-sucker-punch...

Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by smachiz on Thursday December 28, 2017 @11:52PM (#16027630)
Sure - NYC isn't crime free. But you're ignoring the actual data that shows the prevalence per capita to be substantially lower than SF.
Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by santaclaus on Friday December 29, 2017 @08:11PM (#16033176)
I never said San Francisco was safer than NYC, but even looking at those statistics they are mostly comparable in terms of violent crimes (notice that I did say your car is much more likely to get burgled in San Francisco), and the rate of aggravated assault is higher in that study in NYC. My point is that that both San Francisco and NYC are by and large safe cities by American city standards.
Re:Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since ... by madengr on Friday December 29, 2017 @09:42AM (#16029656)
Need CCW.