High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by ProAm on Thursday December 28, 2017 @07:57PM (#16026586)

You can easily build a comparable one for 1/4 of the price. Especially for what most Mac users do with their PC/laptops. Apple has always extraordinarily overcharged/taken advantage of their customers. Of course this is my opinion, and like I said I even used to recommend them to less than technical folks because it used to 'just work'.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by carterehsmith on Thursday December 28, 2017 @10:23PM (#16027264)

>> You can easily build a comparable one for 1/4 of the price.

Ok please show us the laptop that is 1/4 of the price of the same-specs MBP. Or how one could build one.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by ProAm on Thursday December 28, 2017 @10:34PM (#16027298)

Just go spec it out for yourself. Im not doing a homework assignment for you to prove that Apple fleeces it's customers. Especially in regards to a discussion on how Apple quality has dropped so significantly over the past 8 years.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by carterehsmith on Thursday December 28, 2017 @11:15PM (#16027476)

>> Just go spec it out for yourself.

I do it like once a month, and this "3-4x" claim is strictly false. If you spec MBP versus Dell or HP or Lenovo or whatever with the same parts, Apple may be anything between 5%-30% more, nowhere near 300%-400% that you claim.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by ProAm on Thursday December 28, 2017 @11:38PM (#16027559)

Ive been following Apple for 10+ years and Im not wrong. Am I exact? No, but close enough. They used to charge you $100 to write software for your own iPhone. But a semantical argument isnt the one Im making.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by carterehsmith on Friday December 29, 2017 @12:08AM (#16027688)

>> Im not wrong.

Sure thing. Long as you remember to show us the laptop 3-4x cheaper than the equivalent MBP.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by wor3q on Friday December 29, 2017 @07:00AM (#16029047)

Just look at amazon, Laptops with 7700hq and gtx1060 start at about $1k. Equivalent MBP cost almost $3k, while having ddr3 instead of ddr4 and way worse GPU that other vendors pair with this processor.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by carterehsmith on Sunday December 31, 2017 @01:01AM (#16039578)

... ok, I have trouble finding that, from Dell or Lenovo or HP or whoever I can actually buy and get warranty and whatever. BTW --- same parts --- 2GB+/sec SSD, comparable monitor, processor, graphics, battery life, Thunderbolt etc. If it is there I will (well, everyone would) obviously buy right away, but I have trouble finding it.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by wor3q on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @04:13AM (#16050826)

Have you actually looked at other laptops?

True, most doesn't come with nvme ssd, but you can always upgrade (which you cannot on a macbook), processors and graphics are way better for half the price, and you usually get a matte screen in which you can actually see anything besides reflections.

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Re:High Sierra macOS freezing and stops by stephenr on Friday December 29, 2017 @10:42AM (#16029964)

> Im not doing a homework assignment for you

You made a claim. If you can't back up that claim with some basic evidence, we tend to call that claim "bullshit".

Given that other posts identify a laptop with a 1920x1080 display to a retina MacBook Pro, the concept of "equivalent" is clearly not the same for everyone.

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