I still don't get why we can't talk about banning "fake news" like wall street journal on hn.

These are clearly hit pieces and as my parent mentioned, part of a coordinated effort to undermine Google. They did the same thing with YouTube. Everyone is worse off because of wsj.

You absolutely can bring it up. Now, here's the issue though; "fake" implies that they fabricated or exaggerated stuff, not just skewed the coverage. If you can provide solid evidence that the WSJ fabricated this news piece you could probably get this link off of HN.

I don’t think it should be banned even though I agree with yo that the WSJ editorial is wrong more often than not. I feel this way because it is (inexplicably) widely read. Far better to know what a lot of people hear and believe than to live in a bubble.

My criteria are all about size and reach. For example I wold consider a flat earth discussion (99% parody, 1% wtf I assume) a waste of HN attention bandwidth.

It’s not news, it is an editiorial. Although I consider the modern WSJ editorial board to be pretty loathsome, it isn’t fake news.

Surely it's better to discuss these stories publicly and make errors / biases known than to just pretend they don't exist?

thank you for introducing this idea to HN even if this is not provable at this moment.

the percentage of people who take stories at face value is way too high.

i'll keep my words kind and limit this comment to just that....

Can you elaborate on the WSJ's agenda against Google ?

The owner of WSJ is News Corp whose executive co-chairman is Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch's views about Google are well known, Example : https://www.forbes.com/2009/04/03/rupert-murdoch-google-busi...

Yeah, it's not a new spat and definitely not limited to just the WSJ. See also this, starting from the title and finishing with the zinger at the end: https://europe.googleblog.com/2014/09/dear-rupert_25.html

News Corp owns WSJ, and a lot of other newspapers and media brands. News Corp's competition is not other publishers, it is Facebook and Google.

There's two parts two News Corp’s war on Google, the narrow business part concerns Google being key to reach but squeezing out profits of online publishers (especially in the news arena) exactly the way this article complains it does to travel agencies, the broader political part has to do with Google's perceived alignment with the Democratic Party and how that conflicts with News Corp’s broader partisan political agenda.

Thanks. This makes sense.