Re:Chess champion to miss Saudi Arabia tournament over women...
by vowelless on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @02:42PM
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Thanks for expanding in that. I wasn't aware of Peace of Westphalia.
For what it's worth, early Islam is basically game of thrones. Worth checking out what happened in the decades following the death of Muhammad SAW.
Re:Chess champion to miss Saudi Arabia tournament over women...
by gumby on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @07:13PM
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The modern conception of sovereign states that people seem to think is some ancient invariant is actually the result of the Peace of Westphalia and the Congress of Vienna. The post colonial borders were shaped by that understanding.
Do people who grew up in former Ottoman territory have the same conception? Within that empire the idea of nation was quite different.
Re:Chess champion to miss Saudi Arabia tournament over women...
by andrewem on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @06:00PM
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I hadn't seen that abbreviation before, but it's apparently this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_be_upon_him
But historically as an outside it seems that Islamic sects are fairly analogous to Christian ones. There was an early split between Rome (Catholicism) and Constantinople (Eastern Orthodoxy), later various reformers led to Protestant sects, some of which eventually joined in alliances like the Evangelical Church in Germany (which includes Lutherans and Calvinists but has established a shared consensus).
At a glance, Christianity is defined by a split between Catholicism and Protestantism, with Protestantism being a fairly diverse collection of various groups ranging from Lutherans to Baptists.
Much of Christianity's present form is owed to the Peace of Westphalia, which in a nutshell led to the widely accepted ideology that it's okay for other countries not to share your religious beliefs (or even allow a diversity of beliefs in their own territories).