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Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by isaac_is_goat on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:25AM (#16015675)
So looks like they were right when they said it would encourage innovation. Go figure.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by Chaebixi on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:29AM (#16015705)
Some "innovation" is a waste of resources. Specifically, the innovation required to work around broken policy.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by techpop10 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:32AM (#16015737)
Isn't that a description of Uber?
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by bluntfang on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:36AM (#16015778)
And look at what's happening.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by turc1656 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:31AM (#16015723)
Or fixing an already solved problem. Using a VPN addresses basically everything they are trying to fix.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by runako on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:36AM (#16015768)
ISPs can trivially prioritize content from preferred providers while throttling all other traffic, including VPN traffic.

VPNs do not solve this problem.

Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by turc1656 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:42AM (#16015835)
yeah but all your internet traffic would then be throttled. Not just certain services. Using a VPN essentially takes away everything from them and reduces their only tool to a hammer and forcing everything to look like a nail. There is no granularity. All your traffic goes to one location. They can't see what it is or what the final endpoint is because of encryption. So they can't use it to build a profile/data on you to sell. They can't inject ads into HTML or block services that compete with their own, or even grant privileged speeds to approved or preferred services. They basically are forced into a Shakespearean "to throttle or not to throttle" binary choice.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by runako on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @12:16PM (#16016192)
That's true, but in practice most consumers wouldn't notice. That's because the whitelisted services would most likely include those data-hungry services used most frequently by consumers: Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Facebook, etc. which are operated by big providers. This was how Comcast operated in ca. 2013.

The bet is ISPs would be very comfortable throttling traffic, as long as whitelisted services were not affected. (They see this as a revenue generator, because they can sell fast-lane access to companies who don't want their customers' bandwidth throttled.) ISPs that go this route will likely offer a (consumer-paid) option to allow VPN traffic to use the fast lane.

Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by wav-part on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:52AM (#16015932)
Even without vpn, if non-preferred takes most of the bandwidth for a user, it will be apparent to him that he is getting less speed than what he paid for.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by SmirkingRevenge on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @12:18PM (#16016210)
And per the new (lack of) rules, all they have to do is carve out exceptions for vpn traffic in their consumer SLA. The FCC cant do anything nor can the FTC, so long as they aren't blatantly falsely advertising.

What are you going to do if you don't like it? Switch providers?

They aren't going to let such am easy work around get in their way.

Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by DerpyBaby123 on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:36AM (#16015776)
It seems more like breakng a window just to call fixing it 'inonvation' to me [1]

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by brndnmtthws on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:46AM (#16015870)
I don't think creating arbitrary pricing tiers to milk your customers and pad the bottom line counts as 'innovation'.
Re:Startups Seek Tech Solution to Net Neutrality Repeal by pavel_lishin on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @11:36AM (#16015769)
"Our town's window repairmen are going to kickstart our economy thanks to this plucky child with a stone!"