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Re:A Dark Room: From Sabbatical Year to $800k by jaclaz on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @03:32PM (#16010828)
>[0]: http://www.firecalc.com/ gives us an 80% chance of success for a $750k portfolio on $30k withdrawal a year over 50 years.

Which will be good 4 out of 5 times.

This is using all available 50 years "stretches" since 1871.

If you try limiting the "since" to 1960 the success rate goes to 25%.

Still since 1960, 40 years are 44%, 30 years are roughly on par at 79%.

And while sticking at the shorter 30 years, if you start from 1970 the percentage of success increases at 94.4%, if you start from 1980 you finally get 100%.

If you start from 1970 with 40 years period, you are at 75%, more or less the same.

Now what happens if - still starting from 1970 - you increase the period?

41 - 71.4%

42 - 66.7%

43 - 40.0%

44 - 25.0%

45 - 33.3%

46 - 50.0%

47 - 0.00%

And the troubling issue with the last one is that in the two cycles available you hit 0 US$ respectively after 25 and 40 years.

Not to put anyone down, but even the 3% is not that much safe when you go over such lengthy stretches, still as an example drawing 22,500 US$ out of the 750,000 portfolio, which gives a 100% rate of success limiting since 1960 gives 8 cycles, of which one is not a problem as it ends ove 20 millons, but the other 7 (or 87.50%) are IMHO too close to 0 to be reassuring.

Re:A Dark Room: From Sabbatical Year to $800k by freetime2 on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @03:48PM (#16010923)
To be fair, I think the parent poster is not suggesting that you retire outright with $750k in the bank, but work independently "free of bosses". Hopefully in several decades of self-employment, you would be able to generate some meaningful supplemental income during that time.
Re:A Dark Room: From Sabbatical Year to $800k by jaclaz on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @04:54AM (#16013869)
>To be fair, I think the parent poster is not suggesting that you retire outright with $750k in the bank, but work independently "free of bosses".

Honestly I don't know what he is suggesting or not suggesting, but the reference to the Reddit group makes me think that he actually suggests about becoming "financially independent".

My note was however only about not taking the 4% and firecalc calculator (BTW very good) as an oracle.

More a reference to:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/292417-every-morning-in-afr...

than anything else.