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Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by taoistextremist on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @11:39AM (#16009322)
Are hutongs really all that bad there? When I was in Beijing, they were nice areas typically, albeit they smelled worse because of things like drainage not running as low, but overall it didn't seem terrible and many of them were pretty big areas for local business.

I ask because I always thought Shanghai was more developed pretty much everywhere in comparison to Beijing. I mean, I'm sure the actual commie-blocks were the same (I visited one that was actual nearer to the center of the city and it was ridiculously run-down) but hutongs often consist of people living in houses their grandparents' grandparents once lived in, so they're usually reasonably well kept.

Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by anthonyleecook on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @12:14PM (#16009500)
The qualities will vary, of course, but the bad hutongs can mean 1.) shared outhouse (no indoor toilet) 2.) dilapidated building 3.) communal politics from what I've heard (hutong grudges and fights for example) 4.) poor immigrant families stuffed into a small room

I don't know much about Beijing, but I found a good article on it: http://designhotpot.com/infographic-four-perspectives-to-und...

Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by kkarakk on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @01:57PM (#16010215)
basically recreating criminal "hoods" but in the megablock style of judge dredd