Shanghai sets population at 25M

Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by PakG1 on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @10:02AM (#16008841)

I get the feeling that you might not understand why you're being downvoted. There's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. But on Hacker News especially, it is important to contribute to and elevate the discussion. After you post your comment, people should learn something from it. If people do, they appreciate your thoughts, and upvote you, especially if your thoughts are very insightful. If you don't contribute anything new to the discussion, people don't appreciate your comments and prefer to downvote you.

In both of your comments, you say that someone is wrong, but don't offer any detailed examples of why someone is wrong. You state, "This is not an essay, I have no time to write too much." But this is Hacker News. If you read through many of the discussions here, many of the comments that get upvoted the most are actually essays that go into a lot of detail, logic, and evidence to explain each writer's thoughts. And those essays are appreciated because they elevate the discussion so that everyone learns something new.

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Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by sammyjiang on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @11:58AM (#16009419)

did you see the author provide any evidence? the author say something you'd like to hear then you instinctively think it's logic. if you have known how ridiculous it is to compare hutong with indian slum by the author, you will know nearly all of what he said is bullshit. (see on my explaination on another reply to him)

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Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by PakG1 on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @08:36PM (#16012208)

Looking at his comment, I believe he relied on his experience living in both India and Beijing to make his statement. He also did not say that Beijing hutongs were the same as Indian slums. He said "to a lesser extent" and "slum-like". He also said he wasn't trying to be judgmental. He also qualified his statements by saying that it was a while ago, so his information may be out of date.

Having lived in Beijing myself in 2014, most hutongs are not comparable to Indian slums; some might be. But there are definitely problematic housing situations for migrant workers, even now. Many live in dangerous conditions, if not slum-like conditions, though some would consider these to be slums (certainly, many would agree that these properties are run by slumlords). At this point, we are quibbling about the meanings of words, when we should really be focused on whether people can live healthy, safe, and productive lives on their current salaries.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2098843/tales...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/underground-basement-ap...

https://www.npr.org/2014/12/07/368760646/a-universe-beneath-...

the author say something you'd like to hear then you instinctively think it's logic. Given that this is a complaint I have about many people, it is an interesting feeling to have someone else have this complaint about me.

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Re:Shanghai sets population at 25M by kkarakk on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @02:02PM (#16010242)

http://www.virtualshanghai.net/Texts/Articles?ID=76

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