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Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by phkahler on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:16PM (#16006683)
I'd like to reconcile this with the fact that some people can solve a rubik's cube blindfolded after having a good look at it. It seems like they have the ability to imagine the relative movements of 26 objects at once.
Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by shmageggy on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @12:43AM (#16007320)
It is well known that while everyone has roughly the same capacity of visual working memory, expertise in an area drastically alters our efficiency in utilizing that memory. For example, chess masters are much better than novices at recalling chess positions when they look like typical middle-game positions, but they perform nearly the same as novices on random arrangements of pieces [1]. In the rubik's cube case, the expert is not memorizing 54 individual squares, but rather they are taking advantage of learned patterns to store fewer, larger chunks.

For another example, consider memorizing strings of letters: Which one do you find easier? GKAMIFTBW or IBMFBICIA

[1] Chase, W. G., & Simon, H. A. (1973). Perception in chess. Cognitive psychology, 4(1), 55-81.

Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by placebo on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @06:27AM (#16008153)
Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by shmageggy on Wednesday December 27, 2017 @10:34PM (#16020121)
Great question and I have no idea. My comment was geared toward those with normal function (should have specified). There is a large literature on memory and austism/savantism, but I'm familiar with none of it. However, my guess would be that the current best answer is as it is with nearly all of autism -- we don't know.
Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by taneq on Monday December 25, 2017 @11:34PM (#16007093)
And likewise with the fact that a surprising number of people have 'aphantasia' and cannot visually imagine things at all. Humans obviously have a highly variable capacity for visualisation.

TFA also seems to conflate "imagining a scene containing a combination of objects" with "imagining an assortment of randomly oriented Gabor patches", which I don't think follows at all. You can't just disregard the semantic content of what's being imagined. It's like saying humans can't recall sentences containing 50 characters because they can't recite a string of 50 random letters.

Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by SubiculumCode on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @12:03AM (#16007171)
It is well known that semantic groupings increase memory or working memory capacity. The author alluded to that. The Gabor patches are probably used in part because semantic strategies are more difficult to use and gain from using those stimuli.
Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by thethirdone on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:23PM (#16006704)
Or perhaps just memorized the solution (that they figured out while still being able to see the cube).

I haven't ever tried doing it blindfolded, but I would expect there is not too much visualization behind it.

Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by _alias on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:59PM (#16006812)
Solving blindfolded is just momorizing 2 sequences about phone number length. Not a whole lot of visualization. Might be different for the top tier bld solvers
Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by 0xcde4c3db on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @12:30AM (#16007265)
Based on my own experience (not solving Rubik's cubes, but still), it's similar to how one can navigate with turn-by-turn directions despite not having a map. You just need to know how to "walk the graph" of the objects involved.
Re:Our Visual Imagination Is Severely Limited by QAPereo on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:27PM (#16006713)
IIRC there are well established patterns to solve or nearly solve a cube from given starting conditions. Could that be it?

Edit: https://ruwix.com/the-rubiks-cube/how-to-solve-the-rubiks-cu...