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Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by zschuessler on Monday December 25, 2017 @10:38AM (#16004463)
One tip mentioned is to raise your eyebrows. As example: when you first meet someone, raise your eyebrows slightly (or one), smile, and tilt your head and greet them. Making someone else feel special makes you charming.

Along the same lines: I find that voice cadences, and inflection, work pretty well for being charming! Take time to enuncicate the whole sentence you want to say, throw emotion into your words. And if you happen to do the eyebrow trick at the same time - it's charm overload.

Surprised audio cues weren't mentioned more :-)

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by YaxelPerez on Monday December 25, 2017 @12:02PM (#16004807)
Of course, if you do these things wrong you've just plunged yourself into the uncanny valley, and are now creepy.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by zschuessler on Monday December 25, 2017 @12:29PM (#16004904)
It's a fine line, isn't it? Ha! You're correct of course.

To anyone with fear of being creepy: my good friend shared a video with me recently on vulnerability. It forced me to rewire my brain:

https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability

One item I'd add to the article on being charming: be vulnerable. Vulnerability is relatable, it's genuine.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by afarrell on Monday December 25, 2017 @12:41PM (#16004944)
You also have to accept the possibility of being creepy. People have varied and different responses to things and there is no way to 100% eliminate the possibility that any given person sees you as a threat to their safety. All you can do is take reasonable precautions so that a reasonable person would not be creeped out. Keep in mind that "reasonable" is culturally-dependent, so you should pay attention to the local social norms as aspirationally advocated and actually practised. One useful thing to do is to go into a situation with at least one friend so that you can check in with them when situations are ambiguous.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by kakarot on Monday December 25, 2017 @01:33PM (#16005167)
Someone once told me that the way they can always tell if someone is an American traveling abroad in their country is that they always have this stupid shit eating grin on their face and most everyone else keeps a neutral expression.

If you are out of your cultural element, you can cross the line into apparent insincerity with surprising ease. Always know thyself.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by afarrell on Monday December 25, 2017 @06:17PM (#16006152)
Many Londoners (or Australians living in London) find that expression somewhat charming. Just don't talk to strangers on the tube.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by phkahler on Monday December 25, 2017 @06:12PM (#16006137)
Nothing is genuine if you're doing it deliberately. The longer an interaction goes on, the more likely you are to be incongruent.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by rosstex on Monday December 25, 2017 @04:24PM (#16005773)
How did this TED Talk affect you? I watched it, but I can't say I feel a great sense of unworthiness in my life.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by tomjen3 on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @09:12AM (#16008660)
Like everything else, you need to train it.

I have seen babies learn to walk, they don't get it the first, or the fifth time, but their parents encourage them, and most learn it.

However social skills are a completely different beast: here we just accept it as whatever you happen to learn is whatever level you will just have to live with.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by EasyTiger_ on Monday December 25, 2017 @12:34PM (#16004923)
Just trying to get ahead and put best foot forward

Winks awkwardly

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by rokhayakebe on Monday December 25, 2017 @04:08PM (#16005718)
Take time to enuncicate the whole sentence you want to say, throw emotion into your words.

That is how the French talk. It always seems like they are telling you a story.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by raarts on Tuesday December 26, 2017 @06:18PM (#16011672)
This entire thread feels like a conversation between sociopaths on how to manipulate people. On reading through it, do you feel the same way?
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by EasyTiger_ on Monday December 25, 2017 @11:37AM (#16004688)
How grossly manipulative
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by krrrh on Monday December 25, 2017 @01:59PM (#16005272)
Some people are naturally and unconsciously charming, and others, through a confluence of nature and experience, aren’t, and might not even realize it.

Is it fair for the less charming people to be at a permanent disadvantage? Or does being conscious of what is for others unconscious make one automatically manipulative? What if after a few months or years of intential charm, it became automatic?

Compare it to being a poor driver that is unknowingly causing stress and danger to fellow drivers. They take a course in defensive driving and consciously learn a few techniques like counting the distance between them the vehicle in front, not passing in the right lane, anticipating red lights, etc. After a couple of years of consciously driving like this these habits become automatic and traffic around them functions more smoothly. Practicing social skills is more like this than you probably think.

Learning how to write clearly and persuasively is another example that one could dismiss as manipulative at their own peril.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by pault on Monday December 25, 2017 @11:44AM (#16004727)
You could take that view or you could think of it as putting your best foot forward. How manipulative it is depends on your intentions.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by zschuessler on Monday December 25, 2017 @11:49AM (#16004753)
I can see how one may think that!

I see charm as a way to make connections with others (which is awesome!). It's also crazy fun to inflect your voice. Everyone has a better time when you're okay being silly.

Would you treat a new acquaintance like they had the plague? Probably not. Is it manipulative to be nice to someone? I don't think so. Being silly with inflection, or using any of the tools described in the article, for me is just another way to relate to others.

I won't deny some may use the tools for manipulation - but the practice isn't inherently manipulative in my opinion.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by mwcgtbkp5yfg on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:42PM (#16006753)
Beyond being manipulative, it's coming across in your descriptions as childish and weird. How about you just act how you feel? That seems a lot more relatable.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by hateduser2 on Monday December 25, 2017 @12:28PM (#16004899)
Nothing you said here changed my view, I feel like you’ve just obscured the point.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by oneeyedpigeon on Monday December 25, 2017 @01:04PM (#16005055)
So much so that some of it appears bordering on psychopathy: concentrate on the colours in someone's eyes to pretend you care about what they're saying, indeed!
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by mcguire on Monday December 25, 2017 @05:17PM (#16005965)
As opposed to staring at your lap or the middle distance to demonstrate how you couldn't give a flying rat's ass about them?
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by oneeyedpigeon on Monday December 25, 2017 @06:30PM (#16006190)
As opposed to actually caring about what they have to say. There's a much more agreeable part of the article that talks about finding common ground with the second party.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by Lon7 on Monday December 25, 2017 @06:19PM (#16006159)
Manipulative, maybe. But why grossly? All you are doing is making the other person feel good. It should be encouraged and celebrated. If you have a choice between making someone feel neutral, or feel great, why wouldn't you choose great?
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by mwcgtbkp5yfg on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:42PM (#16006755)
Because it's manipulative, if I don't know you.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by saulrh on Monday December 25, 2017 @11:46AM (#16004739)
Tools are tools. Some people use these techniques to be manipulative. Others use them to protect themselves from those that use them maliciously, or as a social prosthesis the same way they might use a meticulous journal to combat an attention or memory disorder.
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by eeZah7Ux on Monday December 25, 2017 @12:54PM (#16004997)
> How grossly manipulative

Thanks for this. It's interesting to see that the main comment threads are:

- how interrogations leverage psychological manipulation to divulge information - how to use verbal and visual tricks - tabeth pointing out how people perceive social interactions as insincere

Yet a lot of people claim that it's ok to deploy psychological manipulation when your intentions are "good".

It's been said that the end doesn't justify the means.

Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by mcguire on Monday December 25, 2017 @05:20PM (#16005968)
The ends do not justify the means, rather the means determine the ends you get. And if the means you use are a complete and obvious disinterest in other people...
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by simplify on Monday December 25, 2017 @01:50PM (#16005233)
Is it manipulative to attempt to invoke emotion in music as well? If not, what would be the difference?
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by mwcgtbkp5yfg on Monday December 25, 2017 @09:45PM (#16006760)
Yes, it is. The difference is that I generally choose to listen to specific types of music (or to see performances that I willing choose to let manipulate me). If a random person on the street came up to me and started playing any sort of music, that would be incredibly rude. (Note that this is different than buskers who are not generally targeting a specific person and generally need a permit to perform in a specific place.)
Re:Tricks to make yourself effortlessly charming by ksk on Monday December 25, 2017 @03:05PM (#16005477)
Who is being manipulated?