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Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by spapas82 on Sunday December 24, 2017 @12:18PM (#16000334)
Actually no. Electron is the hipster/trending one. Unfortunately it creates monstrous applications with hundred mb sized binaries and gb memory requirements.

Thanks but no thanks.

On the other hand Delphi and its open source brother Lazarus are creating real (not html ones) native apps with sub mb binaries with minor memory footprints using a great IDE that reminds me of VB6.

This is definitely the way to go for desktop apps!

Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by holydude on Sunday December 24, 2017 @01:02PM (#16000496)
Electron is chic because it looks nice and it feels nice ...everywhere. Until it does not and then the costs of doing it in smh else are too high
Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by spapas82 on Sunday December 24, 2017 @01:10PM (#16000521)
Looks nice: agreed.

Feels nice? Try running an Electron app (for example atom or VS code) on a 4gb ram celeron (like the one I have at my 9-5 work) and I can guarantee that you won't like the feeling :/

Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by holydude on Sunday December 24, 2017 @01:35PM (#16000646)
A lot of people care about looks and ergonomics before performance. I am not one of them but seriously people like shiny things. Even tech users like good UI before having to use your traditional shitty gui but performant app.
Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by tluyben2 on Sunday December 24, 2017 @09:58PM (#16002392)
Not this tech user and not tech team either. I value my time and a shiny slow UI and often even a good slow UI does not help me with that. My go to tooling to 'get shit done' with my team looks awful and is extremely condensed (one of the forms is one of our 45 page apps condensed into one page) but it is far faster to work with than anything like the shiny things we ship. Both are fast but the none shiny versions are much faster (in everything) because they use less resources, no images etc, so that saves time too when you are working and quickly need to check some flow. Also on slow computers.

I agree a lot of people care about looks and ergonomics, but none tech people complain about Electron apps: a lot of people know the standard things on Windows and these apps behave and look different. For young people this might not matter, but 40+ none technical friends ask me for help a lot with these none standard things where there is no normal menu or preferences is in a different place etc. I tell them to think of it like a webpage and not a Windows app. But it is a Windows app...

It is probably too late to turn things around, but I hope people keep trying. I will anyway. And these kind of articles (and Rebol) give me some hope.

Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by Volt on Sunday December 24, 2017 @01:39PM (#16000671)
They will start caring eventually. Even ordinary people got turned off of bloated-feeling Java apps on the desktop.
Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by user5994461 on Sunday December 24, 2017 @02:20PM (#16000880)
The sad news is, we're the last 2 people on the planet to know what Delphi was.
Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by vram22 on Sunday December 24, 2017 @05:15PM (#16001586)
You mean, the last 2 people in this echo chamber (outside of which there are orders of magnitude more people getting software stuff done) - there, fixed that for you.
Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by yannis on Sunday December 24, 2017 @03:03PM (#16001074)
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Re:Writing GUI Apps Using the Red Programming Language by emacsgifs on Sunday December 24, 2017 @09:28PM (#16002302)
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