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Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 22, 2017 @08:24AM (#15987213)
> This blogger was arrested because Interpol issued warrant for his arrest

I am having trouble finding an independent source for this claim.

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by ceasarby on Friday December 22, 2017 @08:48AM (#15987351)
https://belapan.com/archive/2017/02/07/887716/

Belapan is one of the biggest informational agencies in Belarus.

Российско-израильский блогер Александр Лапшин был задержан в Минске 14 декабря 2016 года по запросу Азербайджана, который объявил его в международный розыск за незаконное посещение Нагорного Карабаха.

The Russian-Israeli blogger Alexander Lapshin was detained in Minsk on December 14, 2016 at the request of Azerbaijan, who declared him on the international wanted list for illegally visiting Nagorno-Karabakh.

Лукашенко заявил, а Шуневич подтвердил, что Лапшин был задержан в Минске не по инициативе Азербайджана, а потому, что находился в розыске по линии Интерпола. "Мы согласно решению Интерпола его задержали. И согласно всем законам и порядку мы должны его передать Азербайджану.

Lukashenko said, and Shunevich (Minister of Internal Affairs) confirmed that Lapshin was detained in Minsk not on the initiative of Azerbaijan, but because he was wanted by the Interpol line. "We, according to the decision of Interpol, detained him and, according to all laws and order, we must transfer it to Azerbaijan.

Belarus had no interest in this guy and his destiny. He has 3 citizenship (Russia, Israel and Ukraine (denounced)) and got himself in the middle of Azerbaijan-Armenian conflict. All this countries, except for Ukraine wanted Belarus to do something different, release him, transfer him, etc. Belarus just did what international law says and washed the hands off. Right after he was transferred to Azerbaijan he apologized for wrong-doing and was released by the president of Azerbaijan and sent home to Israel.

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 22, 2017 @08:55AM (#15987411)
> Belapan is one of the biggest informational agencies in Belarus

Emphasis on "independent". I see a bunch of Belarussian sources saying he had an Interpol warrant out and a bunch of Armenian sources saying he didn't [1]. BBC simply says "Azerbaijan issued an arrest warrant" for Lapshin's arrest [2], with no mention of Interpol. (Note: Interpol's charter bans, at least in theory, disputes of a political nature [3].)

[1] https://armenpress.am/eng/news/878141/lapshin-has-never-been...

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/blogs-trending-38804499

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by ceasarby on Friday December 22, 2017 @09:49AM (#15987767)
Right, Armenian sources obviously not independent in this case. Azerbaijan has a beef with Armenia about non-recognized territory that this guy visited and wrote in his blog how he fooled Azerbaijan military and same crap that he wrote about Belarusian jail. Azerbaijan started criminal case for Lapshin using fake Ukrainian passport (renounced in 2011) to enter the country and of course Armenia supports him for visiting the territory that they consider it's own. I don't want to dig into this conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia and take sides, but I understand why Armenian sources will be writing anything against Azerbaijan.

I think decision to transfer this guy to Azerbaijan was the right one. He violated the law, used the fake passport and wrote crap about them as a country. Why Belarus should cover up his shit and decide who's right and wrong in this story? They got the warrant and send his ass there. Done deal.

Next time when you travel, use valid passport, be respectful to the locals and you get the same treatment in return. Always worked for me. He did totally opposite and got burned. Good thing he's doing OK now, at home and hopefully learned the lesson.

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 22, 2017 @09:52AM (#15987805)
> I think decision to transfer this guy to Azerbaijan was the right one

That's cool but not what we're talking about. OP said Belarus jailed a journalist. You said it was in response to an Interpol warrant. We have impartial evidence of the jailing. We have no impartial evidence of your claim.

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by ceasarby on Friday December 22, 2017 @10:26AM (#15988066)
Well, by now on you've read the article by Belapan where you saw the quote that arrest was made based on the Interpol warrant by request of Azerbaijan. Belapan is independent news agency, at least they claim so on their website. It's not state owned, Belta is. How is my evidence is partial then?

P.S. Also he's a blogger, not journalist. And the story of Belarusian jail that OP referring to is full of shit, even some Belarusian opposition members who spent some time there, not few days like this guy, wrote in comments to the article that he wrote mostly bullshit. Of course it's not a resort, and for someone who got there first time it can be tough and shocking, but it's not as bad, as he describes.

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by myth_drannon on Friday December 22, 2017 @01:12PM (#15989564)
"some Belarusian opposition members" you mean the ones who Lukashenko jailed and then released on a condition they work for him?

I have been reading this guy for many years and tend to believe him more than the "Belarusian opposition journalists" (Belarusian opposition can exist only outside of Belarus or inside mother earth).

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by ceasarby on Friday December 22, 2017 @03:29PM (#15990648)
So, you believe that Minsk jail looks like Osvencim and populated with Gestapo cops then? I don't need opposition journalists to tell that his story full of shit, I can see misconceptions myself. F.e. he claims that you not allowed to read books in jail and I know for a fact it's not true.

What I think happened, after he was released by Azerbaijan he decided to make as much profit out of this story by generated hype as possible. And wrote the fairy-tale about this jail. Don't get me wrong, those jails are bad, but things that he says in the story are simply not true.

Jails are bad in any country, read here about American jails if you think Belarusian jail is bad:

romanvega.ru

10 years without trial, how about that?

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 22, 2017 @10:10PM (#15992703)
> What I think happened

The point of sources is to separate reality from what some guy on the internet thinks happened. I believe you are being deluded or disengenuoid in this thread.

Re:Belarus to create a regulatory environment for circulatio... by ceasarby on Saturday December 23, 2017 @03:09AM (#15993387)
I think you came to this thread to troll, so I'm stopping to feed you. Bye.