An independence assumption really helps with computation. However, considering the `eddies' in turbulence, I'd suppose there is large and complex coupling between the probabilities of flow even for positions that are separated.
You might deal with the coupling, but at a first guess that feels like it requires tracking many branching paths, which would have exponential memory requirements.
>>> Nonunique Leray solutions would mean that, according to the rules of Navier-Stokes, the exact same fluid from the exact same starting conditions could end up in two distinct physical states, which makes no physical sense and implies that the equations aren’t really describing what they’re supposed to describe.
This basically say that from one given starting conditions one only expect one (and only one) outcome. Doesn't this conflate a model with the actual physical reality ?
Contrary to what the article claims here:
> the exact same fluid from the exact same starting conditions could end up in two distinct physical states, which makes no physical sense
it makes quite a lot of "physical sense" to get two possible outcomes out of one initial state, though we would not expect the Navier-Stokes equations to describe that situation.
The article is simply wrong in arguing that because we expect classical fluids to behave classically and because Navier-Stokes may break down in certain limits, NS may be a bad model. I actually struggle to put together a coherent sentence which comes close to what the article tries to say regarding the relation between "physical sense" and our expectations for the results of Navier-Stokes.
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The second is
fantastical but mathematically permissible:
The water starts still, erupts in the middle
of the night, then returns to stillness.
Big bang in the middle of the night.Some quirling around until all matter and energy is equally distributed. What a journey!
Then returns to stillness.
Navier-Stokes has nothing to do with Quantum Mechanics..
The responders' point was that Quantum Mechanics is a different framework for modeling physical phenomena which takes a probabilistic framework, and so if fluid were to be modeled in a similar framework, you could work more naturally with these "vanishingly unlikely" events.
(It only become non-deterministic, when you muck around with collapse of the wave function.)
It's a stretch, but I wonder if it's reasonable to think of data points in the vector field describing fluid motion as probabilities rather than definite measurements. That might allow their behavior to be modeled with different mathematical tools.