Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State Overwhelms Daily Life

Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by thinkhard on Thursday December 21, 2017 @08:52AM (#15978708)

I'd rather be watched by surveillance camera than killed by extremists.

How about you?

It is inevitable; before 911 there was almost no security check in airports. Boarding was not too much difference than shopping in Walmart.

This is one kind of insurance: most time accident is not happening, but when it happens it can be deadly.

Life consists of compromises. Some are unavoidable.

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by SCHiM on Thursday December 21, 2017 @08:56AM (#15978726)

Hah!

There's less people getting killed by extremists than people dying from tangling in their bed sheets (or something similar).

Not only is it a a bad trade. Camera's and surveillance don't stop well planned terrorists attacks. At a certain 'level' of terrorism, or any combative action in enemy territory, you operate under the assumption that you'll get caught and/or killed.

If you truly cared about the loss of life you'd be campaigning against the current speedlimit for cars, and the fact that there's no mandatory alcohol locks for starting your car.

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by jeromegv on Thursday December 21, 2017 @09:03AM (#15978783)

How many people killed by extremists in the US last year? Are you suggesting that US should increase their security to the same level as China (and implement a police state) to avoid more extremists death?

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by thinkhard on Friday December 22, 2017 @11:56AM (#15988882)

Have you ever been to China?

You can walk 24/7 in any city in China without worrying your safety.

Tell me you dare to walk midnight in downtown New York or LA or Chicago.

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by ChampTruffles on Monday December 25, 2017 @01:01PM (#16005038)

You can talk shit about your government, legitimately criticize them, read papers discussing news from different sides even they all biased but they still offer angles, express your opinion freely and perform your citizen duties in NY LA or Chicago. Tell me about all these in China.

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by taobility on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:30PM (#15982006)

You should talk to the relatives who killed by those terrorist. You wouldn't feel the pain as you still alive

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by nate_meurer on Friday December 22, 2017 @10:17AM (#15988012)

You should talk to the relatives of dissidents killed by the government.

See how this game works once we start depending on emotional appeals?

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by thinkhard on Friday December 22, 2017 @12:02PM (#15988936)

Go find pictures of Iraq before and after Saddam was down and see how the life of the ordinary people was changed.

I am not suggesting dictatorship is good; but in certain level of civilization, it might be better for the majority.

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Re:Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State O... by nate_meurer on Friday December 22, 2017 @12:49PM (#15989370)

The gross mismanagement of the Iraq war and its aftermath does not demonstrate that security and freedom are incompatible. Yes, it's much more difficult in some places than others, and a despotic leader is all too happy to point out the failures in order to justify their own tyranny. What really sucks is that so many people fall for it.

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