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Re:Bitcoin is an energy arbitrage by ejfinneran on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:23AM (#15970935)
"One of their functions, which Wall Streeters call arbitrage, was to try to buy power at a low price in one place and sell it at a higher price somewhere else."

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/may/09/business/fi-scheme9

Worked great for Enron.

Also, China's energy is cheap because 75% of their grid is powered by burning coal. He doesn't mention climate change at all in this article.

Re:Bitcoin is an energy arbitrage by xyzzyz on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:37AM (#15971088)
> Also, China's energy is cheap because 75% of their grid is powered by burning coal.

What? Most Bitcoin in China is mined using cheap excess hydro power, using coal power would most likely be uneconomical.

Re:Bitcoin is an energy arbitrage by ForHackernews on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:43AM (#15971147)
I keep hearing this notion repeated, but I've never seen a citation.

Do you have any evidence that:

a) Most bitcoin in China is mined using hydroelectric power.

b) That the generation capacity in question is "excess" (i.e. it would not have been put to productive use except for bitcoin mining)

It's also worth noting that damming rivers for hydroelectric power is enormously damaging to the surrounding ecosystem, even if they aren't carbon-emitting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_reserv...

Re:Bitcoin is an energy arbitrage by scottnyc on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @04:04PM (#15973792)
Fully agree. Following suggest coal is still the main source of energy for Chinese miners.

https://qz.com/1055126/photos-china-has-one-of-worlds-larges...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-15/turning-c...

Re:Bitcoin is an energy arbitrage by jettybrew on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:46AM (#15971188)
China's bitcoin mining firms essentially get state-subsidized power by giving kickbacks to local officials for below-market rates.