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Re:We Only Have Hours Left to Stop the NSA Expansion Bill by 0xfeba on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @10:51AM (#15970568)
When was the last time a 3rd party candidate won?
Re:We Only Have Hours Left to Stop the NSA Expansion Bill by Bartweiss on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @12:20PM (#15971596)
I'm tired and bitter, but: there's no rule saying good outcomes are possible.

It's entirely possible to say "this is a false dichotomy, both parties are fundamentally hopeless on this issue" and also say "third party candidates are completely unelectable".

I'm not entirely fatalistic; I think "a major party greatly realigns its views on privacy" is possible, if hard and unlikely. I mentioned Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders as contrarian voices each pulling their party away from bulk surveillance, and I hope we'll see more such voices in the future. A realignment looks increasingly possible, and increasingly necessary. But I honestly don't think "third parties are powerless" should be seen as a reason to have any hope at all for our existing options.

Re:We Only Have Hours Left to Stop the NSA Expansion Bill by CaptSpify on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:31AM (#15971019)
Why does that matter? There's a lot of distrust for both parties, from both sides at the moment. That seems like a good time for a 3rd party to come on in.