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Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by CasteTraitor on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:52PM (#15965667)
A perfect example would be the immigration debate. I believe if you are in this country ilegally you should be deported. Apparantly, according to many many liberals, that makes me a "racist."

Of course race has nothing to do with it, I couldn't care less what color you are , if you're here illegally you need to be deported. And it's not just me, but I constantly see others who have the same beliefs getting accused of being racist.

And that's just one example. I've seen people be accused of being sexist just because they didn't like Hilary Clinton. It was actually really common for liberals to accuse opponents of Clinton of being sexist regardless of the total absence of any evidence of actual sexism.

Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by abiox on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @12:41PM (#15971825)
> I believe if you are in this country ilegally you should be deported. Apparantly, according to many many liberals, that makes me a "racist."

sometimes people present reductive versions of an argument and drop relevant contextual information and then complain that others respond unfairly. that said, favoring deportation for unlawful entry - wholly absent of any context or further data - doesn't contain much information to assert 'racist'.

however, there are serious 'racial implications' of various immigration policies, such as the 'papers please' arizona law, which says officers can harass people simply by being 'suspicious that the individual is an illegal immigrant'. if a person's status is unknown, the means by which such suspicion is derived would seem to principally lie within racial profiling and similar tactics. among other problems, this profiling creates an unreasonable burden on american citizens that are hispanic (particularly those of mestizo heritage).

Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by TheCoelacanth on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @07:15PM (#15965824)
> I constantly see others who have the same beliefs getting accused of being racist

Probably because of the massive amount of racist rhetoric used in support of that position. It's not an inherently racist position, but when such a large portion of arguments in favor of the position use racist rhetoric it's hard to avoid being lumped in with those arguments.

Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by ithilglin909 on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @07:27PM (#15965882)
Lumping totally dis-similar arguments together is just intellectually lazy, which is most of my problem with the use of words like "racist, sexist, etc." They have valid applications, but are often used to circumvent rational debate.
Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by TheCoelacanth on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @09:09PM (#15966441)
Most people are intellectually lazy. Better get used to it. If you want your arguments to be consistently distinguished from the racist ones you will have to put in more effort to make them seem more distinct.
Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by ithilglin909 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @12:30PM (#15971701)
You don't even know what my arguments would be!
Re:The Google-Facebook Duopoly Threatens Diversity of Thought by fzeroracer on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @07:32PM (#15965901)
And to add onto your point there's a lot of nuance in terms of what it means to be against illegal immigration. Some people define it very harshly (toss out everyone that's an immigrant), some people define it as providing avenues for hard-working undocumented immigrants to become US citizens even if they are illegal.

So when you come out against illegal immigration, your stance can run the gamut of not racist at all to incredibly racist. It just turns out that most of the time the statistics simply don't line up for illegal immigrants committing more crime, stealing jobs and so forth. Which then makes the argument not about fact, but about feeling. Which then tends to be more inclined towards racism.