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Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by Retric on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:12PM (#15965342)
You can replace the batteries at both Apple stores and independent retailers. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/iphone-battery-replacement-diy-o...

The issue IMO, is it's not obvious that the battery needs to be replaced and when. It's not holding charge > new battery is far more obvious than it's slow > new battery. Most people probably prefer a slow phone than one without charge however Apple should have some indication of what's going on.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by oceanghost on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:19PM (#15965406)
You really can't though. I had a phone with an awful battery-- it would shut off around 25% randomly. I brought it into Apple 3 times, it even had apple care-- and because the f*ing diagnostic suite identified the battery as good, they wouldn't replace it.

They wouldn't even LET ME PAY FOR THE REPAIR.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by riahi on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @09:28PM (#15966516)
Agreed. I've been in 3 times. Every time I want to just pay for the replacement; they won't even offer the battery replacement if the diagnostic utility says the phone is good.

My phone randomly shuts down or rapidly loses battery once it is below 40%. It's even worse when it's cold.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by kuceram on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @05:59AM (#15968619)
That's exactly what's happening to me as well. I think it shows a battery percentage based on (old) current voltage which dramatically decreases with low temperature, i.e. when you pull your phone from warm pocket in cold weather.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by suryamp on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:35PM (#15965543)
> LET ME PAY FOR THE REPAIR.

Then you would know that it is totally their fault and the liability would be on Apple to fix other people's devices.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by schrodinger on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @07:16PM (#15965828)
Same here. I went to a 3rd party place and they replaced it cheaper anyway, with no problems.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by ekianjo on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:35PM (#15965545)
> You can replace the batteries at both Apple stores

Or you know, Apple could make it easy for the user to replace the battery by themselves. But they chose not to.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by CamperBob2 on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:40PM (#15965572)
Know how I can tell you haven't designed any consumer products with a battery, replaceable or otherwise?

This is the engineering equivalent of saying, "Why doesn't someone just go to the Middle East, sit down at a round table with with the Israelis and Palestinians and Sunnis and Shiites and rebels and Baathists and Saudis and ISIS members and refugees and all those other guys, and help them work out their differences peacefully?"

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by Karunamon on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @11:29PM (#15967057)
Let's not pretend that Apple's hand was forced here. This is the company that dreamed up a proprietary screw to keep people out of their phones and computers.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by baddox on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @12:53AM (#15967361)
It sounds like you’re describing the pentalobe screw, but security screws have existed for decades. Torx created variants with rejection pins in the 1970s. One-way screws have probably been around much longer than that.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by Karunamon on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:16AM (#15970865)
And every single one of those had drivers you could buy in a pack with 50 other at Amazon for $10. They could have used any of them.

And yet, they didn't. The world didn't need yet another security screw.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by dash2 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @06:33AM (#15968739)
Wow, Nintendo in the 1980s must have had Godlike powers, then: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=donkey+kong+battery+cover&...
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by CamperBob2 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @06:38PM (#15974923)
Yeah, I'm sure you can build a half-trillion dollar company by selling phones in the same form factor as a Donkey Kong game.

If the market wanted such a thing, then guess what... the market would get it.

Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by imtringued on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @07:44AM (#15969052)
Please don't link to google searches. Everyone sees different results.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by ekianjo on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @07:47PM (#15965981)
Thats besides the point. Is it possible to design phones that can be serviced in some ways by your users? the answer is clearly yes. Does Apple care about that? The answer is clearly no. They have been making designs that can't be easily opened for a long time now.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by synicalx on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:21PM (#15965428)
But it's not as cheap or easy as just popping the back of your phone and slipping in a new battery. Mind you, most flagship phones these days can't be refurbished in that way.
Re:iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages by greglindahl on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:35PM (#15965544)
Have you tried the nearby "We repair iPhones" store? They can replace your battery for a lot less than a new phone.