Re:GDPR: Why We Stopped Selling Stuff to Europe
by YeGoblynQueenne on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @02:34PM
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>> Loss of sovereignty as it pertains to 'migrant quotas'. A country should be
>> able to say - 'no, we have decided to not receive these migrants. These
>> people need to go from where they came'.
The refugee quotas you're talking about were decided by the EU interior ministers
voting in the Justice and Home Affairs Council. The UK (along with Denmark and
Ireland) has an opt-out so although its interior minister (at the time, Teresa
May) did participate in the vote [1] it was not allocated any refugees [2].
Not a single one.
The UK instead had volunteered to take in 20,000 people [3], primarily children
from Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey. Despite volunteering, as far as I'm aware
it's still prevaricating about actually taking them in. They're still languishing at Calais, or being held at detention centres in the UK.
I don't see how any of this shows that the EU "crushed" the UK, or that it
caused the UK to lose sovereingty. The UK absolutely said "no, we have decided
not to receive these migrants"- via the opt-outs I mentioned.
A very British thing, opt-outs. The UK has opt-outs for every little EU regulation, it seems. Yet the UK is always "losing its sovereignty" in the EU. How does that work?
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[1] List of participants in the 22 September 2015 Justice and Home Affairs
Council:
[2] Council decision estabilishing provisional measures in the area of
international protection for the benefit of Italy and Greece; see Annexes I
and II, with allocations from Italy and Greece, respectively, to member
states:
[3] For a sense of perspective, France offered to take in 24,000; Germany famously has thrown its gates wide open; and about 2.7 million refugees are currently in Turkey, willingly or not.
Not a single one.
The UK instead had volunteered to take in 20,000 people [3], primarily children from Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey. Despite volunteering, as far as I'm aware it's still prevaricating about actually taking them in. They're still languishing at Calais, or being held at detention centres in the UK.
I don't see how any of this shows that the EU "crushed" the UK, or that it caused the UK to lose sovereingty. The UK absolutely said "no, we have decided not to receive these migrants"- via the opt-outs I mentioned.
A very British thing, opt-outs. The UK has opt-outs for every little EU regulation, it seems. Yet the UK is always "losing its sovereignty" in the EU. How does that work?
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[1] List of participants in the 22 September 2015 Justice and Home Affairs Council:
http://www.european-council.europa.eu/media/22968/2015-09-22...
[2] Council decision estabilishing provisional measures in the area of international protection for the benefit of Italy and Greece; see Annexes I and II, with allocations from Italy and Greece, respectively, to member states:
http://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-12098-2015-I...
[3] For a sense of perspective, France offered to take in 24,000; Germany famously has thrown its gates wide open; and about 2.7 million refugees are currently in Turkey, willingly or not.