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Re:Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive... by colordrops on Monday December 18, 2017 @03:10PM (#15955003)
That's how authoritarianism is and will be implemented in the US: by using the excuse that because a corporation is doing it, then it's not bound by the constitution. "Twitter is a private entity, so they don't have to follow the first amendment." But when the government has privatized and outsourced everything to corporations, then the corporations control the narrative, and censorship becomes de facto instead of by law. Corporations are a workaround to get around constitutional limitations.
Re:Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive... by CM30 on Monday December 18, 2017 @06:31PM (#15956437)
This is one of the biggest issues the internet has in general, at least where freedom of speech is concerned. There is no such thing as public property online, and even with alternatives technically existing, this makes it all too easy to de facto censor speech by denying someone an audience.

Indeed, I think a lot of people miss that the nature of public property and governments not being able to censor free speech did basically guarantee people an audience in the olden days. Did you have a message you wanted people to hear? Protest in a heavily trafficked area (like a town centre), and you had an audience of thousands or even millions, regardless of whether they wanted to hear what you had to say or not.

Imagine how much less useful political movements would be if corporations owned everything in the real world and the people protesting had to do so in their own homes/some private property away from the public. That's the situation these social media sites have set up.

But hey, I guess it's not a new thing, nor an issue exclusive to the internet. In some places, a shopping mall or other corporate property might be the 'heart of the local community', and like with Twitter and Facebook, they could ban those they don't like and de facto censor their speech too.

Re:Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive... by tdb7893 on Monday December 18, 2017 @03:57PM (#15955434)
If you don't like how a corporations handles speech you don't need to use their services. The social media corporations are not being controlled at this point by the government and these issues of free speech are being implemented not because of the will of the government but because they are wanted by the consumers (even if it doesn't seem that way here). Consumers should be able to use the services they want and they want services without these types of speech
Re:Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive... by ThrowawayR2 on Monday December 18, 2017 @05:34PM (#15956123)
> If you don't like how a corporations handles speech you don't need to use their services.

And what are the alternative services that these people should use? Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. simply don't have any alternatives that are widely used or credible.

Re:Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive... by tdb7893 on Monday December 18, 2017 @08:52PM (#15957136)
I agree but it's the market that's the issue, the government has little to do with it