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Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by empath75 on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:05PM (#15947650)
I suspect that a lot of people aren’t buying bitcoin. I think the price is largely driven by one insolvent exchange counterfeiting dollars so they can stay afloat, and bots arbitraging in and out of that exchange to make quick profits. They’re up to printing a 100 million worthless tokens a week now to keep the price afloat and aren’t going to be able to keep the charade up for much longer.
Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by figurehe4d on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:23PM (#15947736)
Nothing in your remark makes any sense. 100 million tokens? Printing fake money?
Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by ufo on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:42PM (#15947847)
Bitfinex stopped trading with US Dollars after their bank accounts were closed / blocked / whatever. To workaround that, they invented a custom cryptocurrency called Tether, which they claim is pegged to the US Dollar by keeping 1 USD in their bank account for each Thether that is issues.

The really suspicious thing is that over the last couple of months almost 1 Billion Tethers have been issued, which is highly suspicious because we wouldn't expect sane people to send such a gigantic amount of money to a shady Bitcoin exchange in the other end of the world, in exchange for a crypto token of dubious value. The most likely thing is that Bitfinex is using these unbacked Tethers that they are printing to purchase bitcoin in their exchange and push up the price.

It feels similar to the last bubble, which started out in MtGOX. MtGOX was insolvent (due to having a good chunck of their deposits lost to hackers and fraud). Eventually, they stopped letting people withdraw their US dollars so the only option people had was to purchase bitcoin and withdraw that instead. This extra demand pushed up the price which attracted outside speculation (the bitcoin price was higher than average in MtGOX but also quickly rose elsewhere) and kept MtGOX afloat for a bit longer than it should (because new investors kept throwing money on the dying exchange to get into the action).

For more Bitfinex news, I would recommend following https://medium.com/@bitfinexed

Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by sincerely on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:29PM (#15947771)
I suspect you're talking about the Tether situation, which is something I've seen alluded to in several places but never really explained well. Can you point me in the right direction ?
Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by ufo on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:44PM (#15947850)
Bitfinexed has been covering the Tether situation for a while: https://medium.com/@bitfinexed
Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by jcoffland on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:26PM (#15947754)
This makes no sense. How would printing worthless tokens bolster Bitcoin? Someone would have to value said worthless tokens (Tethers) in order to be willing to hold them in trade for Bitcoin.

The simple truth is, an increasing number of people are buying Bitcoin whether those holding on to the past like it or not.

Re:The Tulip Fever Was Exaggerated by ufo on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:49PM (#15947877)
The trick here is that it is currently impossible to sell Tethers for USD. The only Bitcoin exchanges that trade Tethers do not trade in USD and artificially treat Tethers as being worth $1 USD. So instead of a devalued Tether resulting in a fall in the price of Tether it reflects as a rise in the price of Bitcoin.

The thing that is harder to explain is that if this theory is true we should expect that the price of Bitcoin in Bitfinex to be higher than in other exchanges. I suspect that what is happening is that the rising prices in Bitfinex are helping attract a new wave of speculation and/or price manipulation, which is what is pushing up the price elsewhere. (This is what happened in the MtGOX bubble)