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Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by shmerl on Monday December 11, 2017 @03:16PM (#15900042)
> It's pretty surprising how ambivalent the guy is to public pressure.

It actually could be expected. He is not an elected official, so he can easily do the bidding of corporate masters, instead of serving the public, especially if he feels that legislative power is too dysfunctional to do anything about it. It can happen even with elected officials, even more so with appointed ones.

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by LeifCarrotson on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:52PM (#15901435)
We understand his broken incentives and allegiances. But most people have at least a small amount of allegiance to and empathy with the general population. Perhaps they won't necessarily listen if the opposition is weak, or if they think they can get away with it.

But Pai has tens of millions of people vehemently opposing him. He is probably recieving jeers and hate mail and rude gestures every time he goes out in public. And people have even started harassing his family - at what point does the money cease to be worth it? Most people would have given up under a hundredth of that backlash.

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by danjoc on Monday December 11, 2017 @07:15PM (#15902023)
One of the dirtiest aspects I've seen in this whole NN debate has been the very ugly behavior of NN proponents. That, as much as anything, has eliminated any support I might have had for NN.

Pai digs in and fights back against racist death threats? Good for him. Shame on anyone expecting him to back down in the face of that.

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by dasil003 on Monday December 11, 2017 @07:56PM (#15902213)
If you're going to dismiss a cause because some of the proponents use ugly tactics then I don't see how you can maintain any moral convictions whatsoever.
Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by danjoc on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:39AM (#15906308)
>some of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QorHUU-Kg

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>You can't say "One thing that should remain Sacred is family, wife, and kids"... when there are families who make a living by working online. If this goes through MILLIONS of people will be fucked... I can assure you .. If this falls through, go into witness protection or some shit because you are gonna get killed. Period. 384 upvotes

>This twatwaffle needs to be burned at the stake. 301 upvotes

These are people promoting Net Neutrality. I don't support that. It is disgusting.

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by wozz on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @03:19PM (#15909082)
You completely ignore the actual point, logical fallacies everywhere on your part.

strawman: misrepresenting argument to make it easier to attack

ad hominem: attacking your opponent's character or personal traits instead of engaging with their argument

appeal to emotion: manipulating an emotional response in place of a valid or competing argument

texas sharpshooter: cherry-picking data clusters to suit an argument, or finding a pattern to fit a presumption

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by shmerl on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:42AM (#15906322)
> I don't support that

But you implied that don't support NN itself, not disgusting comments. So do you support monopolists?

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by trophycase on Monday December 11, 2017 @09:32PM (#15902606)
Yeah cause upvoting Reddit and Hackernews posts and typing your name into some website is really going to do anything.

If this guy is going to play dirty then I don't see why others shouldn't fight back.

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by mulmen on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @03:05AM (#15903808)
That's a very self-destructive position to take. Unfortunately it also hurts the rest of us.
Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by ASalazarMX on Monday December 11, 2017 @06:19PM (#15901674)
In that light, his performance has been stellar. Not even personal threats to him or his family sway this guy, he'll be the perfect scapegoat when this is over.

This was all Ajit's fault, but he's been sacked from public office, rejoice!

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by shmerl on Monday December 11, 2017 @07:16PM (#15902030)
> he'll be the perfect scapegoat when this is over

Reminds me a story, where there was an official who had an arrangement to receive a payment for every day in prison (if he ever ended up there as a scapegoat for actual criminal overlords, whose crimes he was covering up).

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by chrischen on Monday December 11, 2017 @03:29PM (#15900157)
Corporate masters implies he’s still under the employ and compensation of Verizon.

If Verizon is bribing him, they certainly wouldn’t need a former employee to do so. They can just invest in PACs or lobbyists, or even straight up bribe any elected official.

Re:Tech luminaries call net neutrality vote an 'imminent thr... by shmerl on Monday December 11, 2017 @03:34PM (#15900192)
> under the employ and compensation of Verizon

Not necessarily direct employ, but serving their interest. They wouldn't be so stupid as to publicly employ him.

> they certainly wouldn’t need a former employee to do so

It was the path of least resistance for them. He was already in the FCC, and he was always backing the interests of ISP incumbents against the public, if you paid attention.