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Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by tzs on Monday December 11, 2017 @10:11AM (#15897433)
Is there any actual science behind the claims that meat is bad from a health perspective? From what I've seen it looks similar to the "science" that told us that eggs were bad, and that we should avoid fat at all costs--in other words, a bunch of loose correlations from studies with poor reproducibility and poor controls.

In the US, red meat consumption per capita has dropped over the last 50 years, suggesting that it is not the major contributor to our current health problems that some claim.

Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by simonsarris on Monday December 11, 2017 @11:14AM (#15897950)
You are right, this is junk science. In the US calories from meat are down, calories from plants are up. Red meat consumption is also down.

For some graphs showing that people ate more meat in the 1800s: https://twitter.com/simonsarris/status/927306530600431616

Tax or ban corn, not meat.

Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by tkyjonathan on Monday December 11, 2017 @11:32AM (#15898086)
Red meat is down. Chicken however is dramatically higher.
Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by simonsarris on Monday December 11, 2017 @11:38AM (#15898130)
Did you see the graph? Total meat is well down from 1800s levels.
Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by tkyjonathan on Monday December 11, 2017 @01:24PM (#15899061)
That is not the same graph that I have seen, sorry. And this study tells an opposite story. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3045642/
Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by maxerickson on Monday December 11, 2017 @10:25AM (#15897557)
I think the cancer link is pretty solid but the base rates and relative risks don't paint that dire a picture.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3108955/

Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by bryanlarsen on Monday December 11, 2017 @12:52PM (#15898736)
Your link says "red & processed" meat, which is a very different claim than saying that red meat causes cancer. Is there any good evidence that red meat causes cancer?
Re:Meat tax ‘inevitable’ to beat climate and health crises, ... by maxerickson on Monday December 11, 2017 @01:20PM (#15899022)
It gives combined and separate relative risks.