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Re:The Golden State's War on Itself by api on Monday August 09, 2010 @05:02PM (#1589375)
To be more precise, I think green ideology is a secular rehash of Calvinism. It follows the same basic sin-and-redemption narrative.

I've often wondered if the failure of green ideology to take off is Asia is due to the absence of the Judeo-Christian hole for it to plug into.

Re:The Golden State's War on Itself by brc on Monday August 09, 2010 @08:22PM (#1590003)
>I've often wondered if the failure of green ideology to take off is Asia is due to the absence of the Judeo-Christian hole for it to plug into.

My take on this is that most Asian countries are newly industrialised - chances are that a young persons parents or grandparents were once dirt poor. They aren't interested in sacrificing their newly-obtained living standards for an ideology that looks mostly self-serving to any disinterested outside observer. Greenpeace et al trades on guilt, just as the Catholic church does. Asians just want to build exciting cities of the future and become rich. Something the rest of us used to want to do but have now lost the stomach for. It's the classic case of third-generational squandering of wealth, on a very large scale.

Re:The Golden State's War on Itself by alextp on Monday August 09, 2010 @06:48PM (#1589727)
Catholicism has a very similar sin-and-atonement-based logic, and I've seen some non-practising catholics turn green.