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Re:Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System (2008) [pdf] by tenaciousDaniel on Saturday December 09, 2017 @07:15AM (#15885482)
And your secret 12 words, even if never revealed to anyone, presents to you considerable frailty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foil0hzl4Pg

Re:Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System (2008) [pdf] by DennisP on Saturday December 09, 2017 @08:44AM (#15885750)
That's a talk about brainwallets, which is something else. Brainwallets are generally chosen by humans; you can't rigorously prove how much entropy they have, and in practice it's usually much less than people realize.

With a proper 12-word phrase, each is randomly chosen from a list of 2048 words for 11 bits of entropy per word. That's 132 bits of entropy, which is not crackable. (With a 24-word phrase you subtract 8 bits for a checksum; I'm not sure about the 12-word format, but 124 bits of entropy isn't crackable either.)

Re:Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System (2008) [pdf] by tenaciousDaniel on Saturday December 09, 2017 @09:50AM (#15886013)
Ah, I did not realize that. Thanks for clarifying for me!