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Re:Is Civilization Overrated? by Accipitriform on Thursday December 07, 2017 @01:08PM (#15872432)
Hobbes put it best:

"No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death: and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short."

Re:Is Civilization Overrated? by sametmax on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:44AM (#15879442)
Not that part.

The "optimizing for maximum dollar production and optimizing for the maximum number of humans is the same thing." part.