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Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by elif on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @03:51PM (#15855814)
what's wrong with a 4-year vacation where you enrich your mind?

That sounds perfectly healthy on an individual level, and tolerable on a societal level. Perhaps even necessary if you consider the deterioration of discourse in this country.

Also, It's not like food and housing becomes free when tuition is removed.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by sli on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @04:01PM (#15855923)
Perhaps we could make only the first time through college free. If you fail or drop out, the next time through, the student covers tuition themselves.

I have no real opinion on that idea, or any idea how effective it would be, so I'll say nothing more.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by matwood on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @04:14PM (#15856058)
Someone would still have living expenses so it's not like they could just hang out at school the whole time. If someone really wants to work in restaurants and be a professional student who cares?

Realistically, having college remain free helps people who later in life want to change careers, but need some education to do so. We pay a lot of lip service in the US to retraining the workforce, yet do little to facilitate the training.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by specialist on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @05:53PM (#15856863)
I reimburse my child per a formula: A = 100%, B = 80%, C = 60%, etc. 4.0 GPA = 120% (hasn't happened).

I will happily pay for everything, a full ride, as a parent or a taxpayer, if the student does the work.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by Fomite on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @06:19PM (#15857080)
You've just disincentivized your child to take organic chemistry.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by specialist on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @02:35AM (#15859267)
Ya, that's a good point. As a taxpayer and a parent, I do want students to dabble. So maybe cover the first two years, no questions, no qualifications. Thereafter, I'd want any effort I'm paying for to be made in earnest.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by lordCarbonFiber on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @11:57PM (#15858653)
Optimize for least amount of challenging classes, impose huge monetary penalty for risk taking. Sounds like you're doing a stand up job in parenting.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by specialist on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @02:35AM (#15859268)
Thanks. I do my best. I'm glad you approve.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by watwut on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @04:36PM (#15856255)
I am fully ok with government paid tuition. No problem. Not when the school is four years vacation. Not at all. I expect the students to sTudy in exchange of those money.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by geodel on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @06:01PM (#15856931)
Considering the discourse in universities in this country with all the perceived victimhood and unending political correctness I am not sure they are producing enlightened minds.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by elif on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:49PM (#15863154)
That could have something to do with the character of people who can currently afford college. I've heard it called an echo chamber.