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Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by jdmichal on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @12:21PM (#15853336)
> I'd say "bite the bullet, and that's what banks get for giving out risky loans" but we know that's not going to play out that way, especially since the gov owns a fair portion.

> Making tuition free is nice...

I think it's funny that you have these two ideas so close together... The government owning most of the loans provides a very easy path to enabling free college retroactively: extinguish all the loans. The government doesn't have a profit incentive, so there's no reason that such a path should not be reasonable.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by godelski on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @12:35PM (#15853508)
Because half of America doesn't want to do a buyback. Though I suspect, if done, it would end the same way as the 2009 bailout. People are upset, and then mostly forget about it. And in this case, would still be upset at banks and institutions instead of the people. But I think getting initial support would be difficult. Personally I'm fine with increased taxes for this. I think everyone should be educated. But again, we need to lower the cost of school and stop them from cheating companies and the gov on research money.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by Raidion on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @02:59PM (#15855235)
That punishes everyone who took out private loans or worked to put themselves through college. Not to mention it hurts those who worked to pay down their loans earlier.

There are a lot of ways of socializing the cost of education, doing it retroactively opens up a whole can of worms.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by mywittyname on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @03:35PM (#15855575)
It's not "fair" but I think it's necessary. We are staring down the barrel of a loaded gun at this point.

I may be a little salty because I took the community-college-into-university approach to save on costs and made some sacrifices to send every extra penny I earned towards paying down debt.

But I also realize that the country is going to be much worse off if we continue to punish people for spending more than they could afford on university.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by frgtpsswrdlame on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @04:40PM (#15856282)
No. It doesn't punish those people who paid earlier because those people fare no differently in the world where we don't retroactively forgive loans and in the world where we do retroactively forgive loans. It doesn't benefit them either but unfortunately this is a society level problem, we need to move beyond individual level thinking to solve it.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by godelski on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @10:21AM (#15861677)
I'd also like to point out that the later people went to school, the more they paid. On average, at least. The burden that debt brings is becoming more and more as time marches on and we don't fix this problem.
Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by jdmichal on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @04:13PM (#15856046)
That's where a TARP-like buyback would come into play. Negotiate to buy private student loans and extinguish them also. I know there are charity-type groups that do this with mortgages, though I'm having trouble finding any links at this current moment.

But, honestly, I'm not a huge fan of logic lines that sound like, "We can't help everyone, so therefore we should help no one." We should absolutely strive to help everyone we can. And if there's still a population remaining afterwards which requires help, then we can talk about why they weren't helped before and figure out whether and how to reach them also.

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by godelski on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @05:26PM (#15856627)
Are you talking about things like Rolling Jubilee[1]? They focus on credit card debt. I heard about them YEARS ago, and they were trying to get on student loans back then and it looks like they still haven't been able to do it.

[1] http://rollingjubilee.org/

Re:Student Loan Debt Is Now as Big as the U.S. Junk Bond Market by jdmichal on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @05:42PM (#15856765)
I definitely remember reading about them. They're a good example of the type. It looks like they are transitioning their focus to The Debt Collective, which looks like some sort of play on collective bargaining instead?

https://debtcollective.org/