Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by emodendroket on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @09:40AM
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Not really. If anything it's the opposite. They're clamping down on Hong Kong ahead of schedule and Xi is going in a more authoritarian direction. I think China is actually demonstrating the fallacy of our idea that as a country develops it has to become a liberal democracy.
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Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by Chaebixi on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @11:58AM
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Yeah, they played the West. The Communists got what they wanted (technology transfer), while keeping everything firmly under their control.
> I think China is actually demonstrating the fallacy of our idea that as a country develops it has to become a liberal democracy.
I don't think that's necessarily been proven a fallacy, the idea that liberalizing China would be simple and automatic certainly has been. The Chinese Communists aren't stupid: they've been carefully studying things like post-Communist Russia and the Arab Spring in order to avoid mistakes that might cause them to lose power. If China liberalizes, it will take a unique path that the Communists probably couldn't see.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by 3pt14159 on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @12:59PM
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Things in China are dramatically better than they were 30 years ago. Yes they played the west wrt techology, and we should have hit back harder after Nortel got nailed, but overall Chinese people are more knowledgeable about the world around them and their middle class would never put up with the types of things that Mao got away with. Harmonizing HK with the rest of Chinese policies doesn't really change my mind.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by emodendroket on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @06:31PM
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Economically things have been liberalized. Politically they have not. This has worked out OK for a lot of people (although it must be said others have been left behind), but it is not really the model people predicted for China.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by emodendroket on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @06:30PM
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China is officially the largest national economy after the United States. Seems like a lot of development has already happened.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by Chaebixi on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @01:47PM
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Were you responding to a different comment? I was writing about political development, not economic.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors...
by emodendroket on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @03:03PM
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Then what political development do you mean?