The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude toward hate speech

Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by rtpg on Monday December 04, 2017 @12:23AM (#15841630)

There's also a major difference between someone saying "hey, no slurs please in my house" and the gov't pointing a gun at you and saying "no slurs ever".

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by camgunz on Monday December 04, 2017 @12:38AM (#15841699)

No one's going to jail for using slurs. The rhetoric around this has gotten really heated, especially given that we have many other actual problems (North Korea, global warming) we should be spending our energy on.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by LoSboccacc on Monday December 04, 2017 @03:06AM (#15842366)

Have you seen uk news recently?

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by DanBC on Monday December 04, 2017 @03:36AM (#15842486)

Please link to someone who's gone to jail for using a slur, rather than for mounting a campaign of harassment or making credible threats of violence.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by blackbagboys on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:27AM (#15845040)

https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297128/matthew-doyle-ar...

One of literally dozens if not hundreds of incidents

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by apcragg on Monday December 04, 2017 @12:29AM (#15841659)

It isn't the government that is doing that. It is society as a group that has decided that "no slurs" is the norm. If you want to use slurs, use them in a subgroup that for whatever reasons deem them acceptable. Don't use them around society as a whole as it has decided that there are social consequences for using them. Again, if you don't like it either campaign to change it or exclude yourself from society but don't conflate the social contract with government authoritarianism.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by rtpg on Monday December 04, 2017 @01:54AM (#15842006)

Right, separating the social contract from the gov't was what I was trying to point out.

"in my house" can be replaced with "on my website" or "in my restaurant" for most purposes. There's some stuff about monopolies and access guarantees to utilities.... but for most purposes the discussion is far from those cases I believe.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by ekianjo on Monday December 04, 2017 @12:33AM (#15841682)

> It is society as a group that has decided that "no slurs" is the norm.

Society is not a uniform group with a single way of thinking.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by h0l0cube on Monday December 04, 2017 @12:56AM (#15841778)

apcragg is probably referring to social mores and the social compact. Ultimately there are conventions, explicit or otherwise, that compel our social interactions.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by ekianjo on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @01:46AM (#15850220)

> Ultimately there are conventions, explicit or otherwise, that compel our social interactions.

I agree, but as far as I know in the US the spirit behind such interactions is pretty much described in the constitution, and the first amendment makes it very clear that freedom of opinion/expression is paramount, no matter what.

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Re:The origin of Silicon Valley's dysfunctional attitude tow... by alphabettsy on Monday December 04, 2017 @12:54AM (#15841764)

I think you should review the definition of society.

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