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Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by EvanAnderson on Saturday December 02, 2017 @03:41PM (#15833950)
In the United States, at least, the U.S. Postal Service is in a unique position to "pivot" to being an identity and "trust" provider. They already provide a physical-to-identity "mapping" service for the vast majority of Americans.
Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by chimeracoder on Saturday December 02, 2017 @03:55PM (#15834033)
> In the United States, at least, the U.S. Postal Service is in a unique position to "pivot" to being an identity and "trust" provider.

The USPS is nowhere near equipped to handle this. And there's no way I'd trust them to be competent enough to handle the task with the level of security that it would entail.

> They already provide a physical-to-identity "mapping" service for the vast majority of Americans.

They really don't. Even if we ignore the fact that one's identity is completely separate from the question of where they reside, the USPS has no way to verify residence. They don't really even a way to verify mailing addresses, which is at least a more well-defined problem than residence.

Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by chickenfries on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:09PM (#15834103)
> And there's no way I'd trust them to be competent enough to handle the task with the level of security that it would entail.

Why? Obviously it would be a big undertaking, but the post office already issues US Passports. I'm not sure what you mean by "verifying mailing addresses" because the USPS does provide a way to do verify the correctness and deliverability of an address [1].

The point is that the USPS would be in a good position to become the government body that implements a national identity service.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Management_System

Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by akira2501 on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:43PM (#15834265)
> but the post office already issues US Passports.

The State Department issues US Passports, the Post Office merely accepts your applications on their behalf.

> I'm not sure what you mean by "verifying mailing addresses" because the USPS does provide a way to do verify the correctness and deliverability of an address [1].

It's only vaguely tied to identity. I have my physical address, but because I live in an RV park and move often, I don't actually receive mail there. In about half of the locations I've stayed, you _can't_ receive mail there.

I use a private mailbox along with a mail forwarding service in order to receive postal mail.

> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Management_System

Is used to solve the problem of sorting and routing mail, which is really what the Post Office spends most of their effort on. Every postal address in the US can be uniquely identified by an 11 digit code: your ZIP+4 and the last two digits of your house number, but it completely ignores multi-tenancy and has no provisions for linking to identity.

Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by astura on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:45PM (#15834274)
The post office does not issue passports, the US Department of State does, it literally says right on the passport that it's issued by the Dept of State. Additionally, there's a whole host of government buildings that accept your passport application that aren't the post office. I submitted mine at the county clerk's office.
Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by x23oeuiudi7 on Sunday December 03, 2017 @01:26AM (#15836279)
Have you ever filled out a form that uses that system? It will be rejected if you use any "weird" characters. You know, characters like a period after the abbreviation "St." for "Street". It's ludicrous.
Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by coldtea on Saturday December 02, 2017 @06:33PM (#15834957)
>The USPS is nowhere near equipped to handle this. And there's no way I'd trust them to be competent enough to handle the task with the level of security that it would entail

Is that more market ideology ("public services are by necessity so dumb") speaking, or is there something specific with the US postal service?

Re:Detailed Financial Histories Exposed for Thousands by bogomipz on Sunday December 03, 2017 @09:41AM (#15837709)
>"In the United States, at least, the U.S. Postal Service is in a unique position to "pivot" to being an identity and "trust" provider."

The US Post Postal Service is most certainly not in a unique position to "pivot" to being an identity and "trust" provider."

It's actually quite unbelievable to think that a bloated organization with 500K employees[1] that relies on manual and mechanical processes can "pivot" to become a tech organization providing digital identity management.

The USPS "pivoted" to delivering junk mail for direct marketers years ago. Given that there largest customer is direct marketing, that alone makes them rather unfit to be an "identify provider."

The USPS government mandate is delivering mail and despite having a government sponsored monopoly to deliver mail to mailboxes it still loses money hand over fist[2].

[1] https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/employees-s...

[2] https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/postal-service...