Re:The Great American Single-Family Home Problem
by archagon on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:11PM
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If your argument is “these people should feel differently”, then you have already lost. Their votes and community involvement are, in the end, the only things that matter. Your principles mean nothing; they need to be convinced.
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Re:The Great American Single-Family Home Problem
by ryguytilidie on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:21PM
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This is the biggest failing of modern debate. It seems like we've thrown compassion and putting ourselves in other people's shoes and now just say "your view is stupid, change it". Imagine someone presenting that to you? Is your immediate thought "hm, you're right! convincing point!" or "Go fuck yourself"?
Re:The Great American Single-Family Home Problem
by nasredin on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:42PM
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It seems that reluctance to consider other views is closely related to the level of education, and place of upbringing.
This IS not a failing in modern debate, but a much bigger issue.
I have seen less educated people show zero empathy for the opposing side many more times than the reverse.
Also you cannot have debates with some people, e.g. right wing authoritarians.
Some people are just born that way.
Re:The Great American Single-Family Home Problem
by mantas on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:40PM
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Educated left wingers seem to be most ignorant tbh.
Re:The Great American Single-Family Home Problem
by ericd on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:24AM
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Right, it's not about education as much as it is knowing people who don't share the same views as you. If everyone you know thinks the same way you do (which is as common among left wingers as right), then it's much easier to believe that people who don't share your views must be insane/less than human/your enemy.