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Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by gnu8 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @11:07PM (#15821822)
I'm not too familiar with the inner workings of Intel ME. Have you verified that setting the HAP bit is effective with the ME code removed? If so, then that is obviously the way to go. However, if the code that interprets the HAP bit and shuts down the ME is removed (as well as everything else not necessary for the computer to run), which option is actually safer, HAP or code removal?
Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by Kliment on Friday December 01, 2017 @01:02AM (#15822248)
The safest option is to do both, and that's what's happening here (though the post is not clear on it, they're running me_cleaner with options that both erase all but the initial loader module of ME, and set the bit so it disables itself after startup instead of loading other modules)
Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by forapurpose on Friday December 01, 2017 @12:49PM (#15825671)
Generally speaking, if you have two options, it's not at all true that doing both is necessarily better than doing one or the other.
Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by jackpot51 on Friday December 01, 2017 @08:40AM (#15823706)
We do both - set HAP and remove code.
Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by forapurpose on Friday December 01, 2017 @12:46PM (#15825644)
I think gnu8 was asking: Does removing the code interfere with HAP mode (e.g., by removing code necessary for HAP to be activated, maintained, operated, etc.)? Is both really safer than one or the other?

For example, there may be two drugs that can treat my illness; taking both might not be better than taking one or the other.

Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by gnu8 on Friday December 01, 2017 @02:55PM (#15826797)
Yes thank you, you understand my question.
Re:System76 ME Firmware Updates Plan by forapurpose on Thursday November 30, 2017 @11:54PM (#15822016)
A very important question.