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Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by nordsieck on Thursday November 30, 2017 @05:04PM (#15820013)
Excel is good for many things, but I'm not sure that complex financial models is one of them. Its convenience is balanced out by its lack of testing facilities. If you assume the industry standard of 1-5 bugs per 100 lines of code, you've got a huge liability on your hands.
Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by munchbunny on Thursday November 30, 2017 @06:12PM (#15820521)
Depending on what kind of firm or sector of the financial industry you're in, financial models have a problem of constantly changing. Web apps and other programmed solutions work well when you have to repeat the same model over and over, but they don't work well if you're constantly adjusting the model or changing its parameters/calculations.

In that case Excel's instant update and flexible (but quite powerful) formula scripting is often the best tool for the job because it means you remove the programmer middle man. I know some shops prefer to just teach the analysts how to write code.

Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by mr_toad on Thursday November 30, 2017 @10:56PM (#15821792)
Nearly every Excel wordbook I've ever reviewed has errors caused by updating a complicated model.

Often this is down to people adding/deleting/copying or modifying rows/columns and forgetting to change cell formula.

So, in theory you can modify a workbook and get instant results. In practice this seems to be nearly impossible to to get right.

Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by munchbunny on Friday December 01, 2017 @03:30PM (#15827100)
Maybe that implies that we just need to start teaching analysts to write code, but the problem is that when you switch from spreadsheets to honest-to-goodness text-based code, you're just trading one set of problems (spreadsheet mistakes) for another (bugs in your code).

In the end I'm personally still in favor of Excel because it has a much gentler learning curve, though you are right that bulk operations in Excel are ripe territory for errors. I don't think it's "nearly impossible" though, it comes down to following best practices the same way you would in any programming language.

Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by cloakandswagger on Thursday November 30, 2017 @05:19PM (#15820119)
I only worked in finance for a brief time, but the operating procedure at my job was to formulate models in Excel, then validate them in a formal QA environment before using them in production.

I really doubt any major finance player allows someone to whip up a spreadsheet, plug some numbers in and start trading off that information. Excel is valuable in the early stages because it's fast, powerful and easy to collaborate in. Trying to eliminate it just because it's Excel is dogma.

Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by kgwgk on Thursday November 30, 2017 @05:54PM (#15820413)
> I really doubt any major finance player allows someone to ...

Clearly you only stayed in finance for a brief time :-)

Re:Finance Pros Say You’ll Have to Pry Excel Out of Their Co... by intended on Friday December 01, 2017 @09:23AM (#15823947)
Models have lower bugs.

Your fin model has normal sanity checks and then functional checks.

And in the end the out put must be readable AND make sense.

And whatever bug you have is going to propagate down your projected time series.

Finance chaps use finance as their weapon of debugging. Sure mistakes get through. I’ve seen mistakes get through code as well though.

Also - analysts get fired a lot faster.