News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by jsonne on Thursday November 30, 2017 @02:02PM (#15818496)
The problem though is that they led the way by breaking down all the regulatory barrier to entries. Whats to stop anyone from starting a ridesharing company tomorrow?
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by lev99 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @02:36PM (#15818797)
The network effect.

You have the give your drivers a reason to use your app instead of uber.

You have to give riders a reason to use your app instead of uber.

The two reasons have to be good enough to build a large enough network for the rideshare system to work.

Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by lenley on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:31PM (#15819237)
I would argue there isn't really a network effect for lyft or uber or any ride-sharing company for that matter. There might be brand and price effects for the companies to battle over amidst both riders and drivers.

I'd say there is a network effect for ride-sharing in aggregate, neither Lyft nor Ueber has been good at locking drivers and riders in with loyalty programs to try to keep people solely on their platform.

Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by xbzbanna on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:37PM (#15819290)
More drivers means faster pickups for riders, and more riders means less downtime for drivers. Drivers doing more rides per hour means they can be paid less per ride, lowering the price of a ride and further increasing demand. Sounds like a network effect to me. Offerings like Lyft Line and Uber Pool multiply both of these effects.
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by Marazan on Friday December 01, 2017 @04:47AM (#15822920)
There is no cost for a driver to use multiple apps. There is no cost for a user to use multiple apps.
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by throwaway2048 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:04PM (#15819006)
those reasons have largely boiled down to "lose money on each ride", that's not going to last.
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by malandrew on Thursday November 30, 2017 @04:11PM (#15819570)
Please name one comparatively successful ridesharing company founded in 2013 or later in any global market. I'll wait.
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by jsonne on Thursday November 30, 2017 @04:35PM (#15819754)
Here's a list of them in fact. Literally the top result on my Google SERP for "local uber competitors" http://mashable.com/2017/08/16/uber-global-rivals-didi/#vCa1...
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by malandrew on Thursday November 30, 2017 @06:24PM (#15820597)
Yes, and which were started after 2013 or even as early as 2013?

The truth is that all the viable competitors are likely already out there and it's going to be very very difficult to replicate what these incumbents have without burning ridiculous amounts of capital.

If the Softbank deal closes, we'll likely see a wave of consolidation with Softbank orchestrating acquisitions by Uber. It's very common for relatively young markets to consolidate over time.

No one in their right mind would start a new company to compete with the existing TNCs in 2017.

Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by wpietri on Thursday November 30, 2017 @09:20PM (#15821438)
Just looking at the ones active in Austin, Fasten, Chariot, and InstaRyde were started in 2014; Fare in 2015; Ride Austin in 2016.

Ride sharing is essentially a local business with very low barriers to entry. You don't need to replicate what the incumbents have right away. You just need a modest number of drivers (who can also be driving for the incumbents) and a modest number of customers.

Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by malandrew on Friday December 01, 2017 @03:09PM (#15826902)
Do you have any data to support the position that any of those three are not irrelevant from a market share by rides given or by industry profits?
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by wpietri on Saturday December 02, 2017 @10:43AM (#15832305)
Some were listed by local news as the leading rideshare companies.

That seems sufficient to me. It's hard to name any company started in the last few years that is a major market player when then have a bunch of competitors. New businesses take time to grow.

The discussion here is about whether Uber has a moat. The point being made is that it's pretty easy to start a rideshare company. Which it is. That one hasn't become major yet isn't proof that one can't become so. As long as there's room for new companies to start and be sustainable at modest scale, then Uber can't extract monopoly rents.

Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by malandrew on Monday December 04, 2017 @02:29PM (#15846679)
> Some were listed by local news as the leading rideshare companies.

Did the journalist who wrote that story cite any figures to support that assertion?

Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by wpietri on Monday December 04, 2017 @07:20PM (#15848801)
Sorry, I'm not interested in playing "bring me a rock" with you. You can do your own research. If you discover something important, let me know. But until then, I stand by my opinion that the rideshare market has low barriers to entry.
Re:Uber’s Losses Widen as SoftBank Launches Bid to Buy Shares by malandrew on Thursday December 14, 2017 @08:53PM (#15929118)
At least you've admitted that your opinion is handwavvy and unsubstantiated. That's all I wanted.