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Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by devmunchies on Thursday November 30, 2017 @10:07AM (#15816263)
> not be able to easily set the heating until they've moved in ... the epitome of "first-world problems"

Staying warm is a first-world problem? How out of touch can the author be? That's a basic need.

Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by btgeekboy on Thursday November 30, 2017 @01:47PM (#15818342)
One would think that a new homeowner, if actually locked out of the thermostat somehow, could go to their local hardware store and pick up a cheap $30 thermostat to control the furnace.
Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by cbr on Thursday November 30, 2017 @02:29PM (#15818733)
Or just remove the thermostat from the wall, and turn the heating on by shorting the signal wires together.
Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by btgeekboy on Thursday November 30, 2017 @06:51PM (#15820753)
Yes, or that. Point is, the only thing that’s locked/secured is easily removed and replaced by a dumb, easily acquired device. Nobody that has accepted the responsibility of home ownership will be denied access to heat due to a smart home thermostat that they don’t have full access to.
Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by andrewem on Thursday November 30, 2017 @09:19PM (#15821437)
After I bought a house, I couldn't turn off the dining room chandelier lights for three days while I figured out the box they'd stashed in a cabinet had a radio transmitter that talked to the light. A while later I paid an electrician to run some wire through the ceiling and a wall, and install an outlet with a switch.

There was also an outlet in another room with some complex controls. It stopped working after a while. Turned out the switch - which is connected to a freaking electrical wire - required a battery to work. I had that taken out too, and good riddance to all of it.

Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by libria on Thursday November 30, 2017 @10:13AM (#15816315)
Meh, the furnace is perfectly operational and you could hold a screwdriver across two terminals to force it on. Not convenient, but not dire need.
Re:How do you move out of a smarthome? by ajford on Friday December 01, 2017 @09:34AM (#15824008)
The first-world problem is not the "staying warm" issue, but the fact that the fancy 'IOT' thermostat requires an internet connection to set.

In "third-world" areas, and even in many modern "first-world" areas, a heater can be manually turned on with a simple switch, regardless of thermostat settings, and just as easily turned off. The lack of these controls on a significantly more expensive thermostat is where the first-world problem creeps in.