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Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by zoul on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:03AM (#15814134)
> NASA chose not to weigh in. A spokeswoman told the Washington Post: “we don’t think there’s a debate to be had.”

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Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by teamhappy on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:12AM (#15814172)
That's actually really important. Trying to convince irrational people with rational arguments is kind of a moot endeavor anyway, but to an uninformed observer NASA debating those people may end up looking like whatever they're debating is apparently worth having a debate about.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by ralusek on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:25AM (#15814218)
I actually despise this argument, though, because it's increasingly used to prevent legitimate arguments from happening.

There is a growing likelihood for people in this country to feel that their ideas are so morally correct, that opposing viewpoints should be ignored or suppressed. Two very common arguments I hear that seek to accomplish this are that a debate should not be had because they don't want to create a "false equivalency" (the argument you're making here), or that they don't want to provide the other party with a "platform." There is no such thing as a false equivalency in debate. In reasoned discourse, foolish ideas should be exposed and dismantled.

Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by teamhappy on Thursday November 30, 2017 @04:07AM (#15814397)
I agree that the whole "no platform" thing is a bad idea. You shouldn't alienate people; it doesn't get you anywhere and it's kind of mean.

It's not like I'm against debating things in public either, I just think it's important to know when to stop. For example, let's say NASA had added some easy/intuitive proof to their comment that people can do at home if they want to. That's cool, right? So now you get a irrational response back from the other side. Do you respond? I guess the question is how often can you respond before you end up doing more harm then good.

Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by zoul on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:33AM (#15814266)
The thing is, is it really reasoned discourse when you dismiss centuries of scientific evidence by pointing to a global evil conspiracy?
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by Joe-Z on Thursday November 30, 2017 @04:15AM (#15814429)
Yes. Pointing to a global evil conspiracy held up over centuries is a very weak argument, compared to what round-earthers could bring to the table. So, one would assume reasonable people would be convinced by the round-earthers.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by owebmaster on Thursday November 30, 2017 @07:41AM (#15815276)
The 20th century definition of the atom was dismissed dispite centuries of scientific evidence. Not a flatearther, just saying.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by gjulianm on Thursday November 30, 2017 @04:17AM (#15814442)
I always like the bridge example here: how would you react to someone trying to convince you that you should jump off a bridge? Reasoning with them implies that you accept that they might be right (it’s not a debate otherwise). The appropriate response would be laughing at them, or ignoring them, or something similar.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by owebmaster on Thursday November 30, 2017 @07:40AM (#15815261)
Laughing at them is better than ignore, this is what OP means I guess.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by kowdermeister on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:47AM (#15814314)
But there's no need for legitimate arguments when there's nobody at the receiving end. The flat eartheres should be forgotten and ridiculed and we shouldn't provide them attention they can than use to find another receiving poor soul.

I can make up any bullcrap and if any I mean any new source picks it up it's free advertising for me regardless how right they are.

Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by tehwebguy on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:51AM (#15814328)
Exactly - some arguments have already been had. This is one of them.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by loup-vaillant on Thursday November 30, 2017 @04:31AM (#15814511)
> In reasoned discourse, foolish ideas should be exposed and dismantled.

You might have a problem with ensuring the discourse is reasoned in the first place. For anything important enough, at least one side is likely to use every sleazy trick in the book, from logical fallacies to plain slander. What may have began as a search for truth (or facts) can quickly turn into a dirty rhetoric match. In such a situation, the outcome mostly depends on debating skills.

Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by gozur88 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:17AM (#15814192)
Are these people really irrational, or are they just messing with everyone? I agree NASA shouldn't bother with them much, but more because there's no point in engaging with trolls than because they're irredeemably ignorant.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by benjsross26 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:25AM (#15814224)
Troll or not, if you enter into a debate with someone you only serve to validate their opinion.
Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by aquadrop on Thursday November 30, 2017 @03:55AM (#15814345)
It's a joke, if you enter a debate with a joke you just continue a joke.

Or that could be a world conspiracy, you know, like the one where Santa and children of the world made adults believe Santa doesn't exist.

Re:America’s flat-Earth movement appears to be growing by gozur88 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @01:52PM (#15818393)
That's not true. You don't validate someone's opinion by honest debate with them.

My point is I don't think it's actually their opinion. You can't have honest debate with someone who's pulling your leg. It just makes you look like you can't take a joke.