Re:AWS Fargate – Run Containers Without Managing Infrastructure
by dvlsg on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @03:29PM
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If you know those tools exist, maybe. I just put together a new project using cloudformation (technically serverless, but it turned into 90 percent cloudformation syntax anyways), and it was pretty rough.
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Re:AWS Fargate – Run Containers Without Managing Infrastructure
by eropple on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @03:38PM
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Maybe it's just me, but as a programmer the first thing I ever asked when looking at the wall of CloudFormation JSON was "so how do we make this not suck?".
Our job is not just to automate servers, it's to automate processes, including stupid developer-facing ones.
Re:AWS Fargate – Run Containers Without Managing Infrastructure
by jrochkind1 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @05:14PM
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True, but as a _programmer_, working on a _new to me platform or package_, I am _very_ reluctant to add an extra third-party abstraction layer which requires it's own evaluation of quality and stability and some learning curve. It's gotta be pretty clear to me that it really is "what everyone else is doing", or I've gotta get more experience with the underlying thing to be able to judge for myself better.
I've definitely been burned many times by adding an extra tool or layer meant to make things easier, that ends up not, for all manner of reasons. I think we all have.
Re:AWS Fargate – Run Containers Without Managing Infrastructure
by wgjordan on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @09:01PM
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Worth noting that "nearly 31,000 AWS CloudFormation stacks were created for Prime Day" [1], so Amazon uses CloudFormation heavily internally. Not a guarantee that it's what 'everyone else is doing', but it's a good indicator of quality/stability and that it will remain a core service within the AWS ecosystem for some time.
[1] https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/prime-day-2017-powered-by-a...
Re:AWS Fargate – Run Containers Without Managing Infrastructure
by hayd on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @10:24PM
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I think they're talking about a CF template generator being the third-party software (I could be wrong).
Re:AWS Fargate – Run Containers Without Managing Infrastructure
by andrewstuart2 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @03:51PM
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You're not wrong. But in my case, that had been basically forbidden as an option, essentially because it "wasn't supported by Amazon," and because there's just additional risk to non-standard approaches. AWS certifications cover CloudFormation, so you can hire for that with low risk pretty easily. Other nonstandard utilities, not so much.