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Re:Pai: Twitter Is Bigger Threat to Open Net Than ISPs by s73ver_ on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @04:51PM (#15802172)
Except each of those companies has competition. Voat and Gab, among others, were born out of the idea that Reddit and Twitter were being unfair. And one had the ability to join one of those alternative platforms, even while still remaining a user of the original, without friction, largely because of having a neutral net. If we get ISPs offering "social media packages", what do you think the odds that Voat, Gab, or even Mastodon will be included?

If you believe that what Reddit and Twitter are doing is wrong, then why on earth would a reasonable solution be to extend the ability to do more of that to actors that one cannot reasonably avoid? I have a grand total of 1 ISP to choose from. The vast, vast majority of Americans have 1 or 2 to choose from. If NN is revoked, and Cox (my ISP) decides they're going to act like Twitter, then I have exactly no recourse. Why do you believe that is the way to go?

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Re:Pai: Twitter Is Bigger Threat to Open Net Than ISPs by H99189 on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @04:56PM (#15802224)
I whole-heartedly agree that ISP's shouldn't be outright blocking anything. I'm Pro-Net Neutrality Net-whatever to keep the pipes open and unfettered by greedy corporations.

I'm just pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the recent campaigns talking about censorship as a possibility when the right has been getting attacked/censored by every big SV company in recent years. Now they're crying about possibility when they're engaged in the very act themselves. I guess they're right, they would know, so yeah i'm pro-NN.

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Re:Pai: Twitter Is Bigger Threat to Open Net Than ISPs by s73ver_ on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @07:06PM (#15803275)
I disagree. If I unleash a horde of spambots on this site, posting spam, and they get removed, am I being censored? If I constantly use slurs and other insults at other users, and I get my account banned because of it, am I being censored?
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Re:Pai: Twitter Is Bigger Threat to Open Net Than ISPs by dragonwriter on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @07:08PM (#15803290)
Yes, in both cases.

Censorship is a problem in certain cases (government, especially viewpoint-based censorship, for instance), but not in all cases.

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