> I'm not going to go down a rabbit hole of point/counterpoint with you any longer > Aside from just being contrarian (which I think a lot of people get a kick out of), > I suspect you are enjoying being a non-conformist > Of course this is the total point - to kill the conversation and end discussion, > I'm not saying this is your intent or that you consciously are doing it, but it works extremely well so its hard to expect people to not do it.

Way to invalidate opponent's points by pointing they are driven by some kind of psychological flaw or behavioral defect in the opponent and basically are just trolling, without actually having to address them. And then blaming the opponent for "killing the discussion". What you mean by "discussion" then - everybody agreeing with you in their own creative ways? If you want to know "what's wrong with politics nowdays", it is this. Not factual rational debate, but instead finding a way to most conveniently dismiss the points and look good.

There are multiple studies that suggest the 2015 approach to NN is not reaching the goals and will do more harm than good - e.g. see a nice list here: http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/11/tak... But discussing those is useless if it's all "tactics" for you that you need to find a "counter" - i.e. not discuss anything on merits but just find a right way to dismiss it. "We" (the people who agree with you) just need to find a way to make nobody pay attention to anybody disagreeing with you, and that would automatically make you right.